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So, after my 1200 mile break in, how is the 4-6,000 range?<br>4 grand comes up pretty quickly. And with manuals, I wind them out even in everyday driving.<br>Can't wait to see what extra oomph I get from the upper range. <p>Oh yeah, my brakes are squeaking already. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (Eric_H)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Eric_H</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <p>Oh yeah, my brakes are squeaking already. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Really? I beat my breaks to death and they have never squeaked... Did you seat your pads correctly?
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (UNO_RACING)

My breaks only used to squeek when I DIDN'T beat them to death. Got the squeek fix, and haven't had a squeek since.
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (Eric_H)

Stock form it kinda runs out of breath past 5,500 rpm.
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (UNO_RACING)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>UNO_RACING</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Really? I beat my breaks to death and they have never squeaked... Did you seat your pads correctly?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Huh?<br>I got in the car, and drove it. Does that count? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>There is nothing I was told or read in the manual about breaking in the brakes.<br>However, I have not had any all-out/dead hard stops yet.
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (PhilUp)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stock form it kinda runs out of breath past 5,500 rpm. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Especially in first gear.
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (MagoonR)

O.K. another question for the guys bored at work (like myself <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> ) at what range do most of you 'manuals' like to drive casually?<br>I hang right around 2500-3000. Past 3 grand, I upshift.<p>So, I understand to jump out of 1st around 4 grand and then wind the rest to 5500? Man, I can't wait! <br>I have a friend who has asked me 4 times already how many miles I have on my car. Only 500, so far....... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (Eric_H)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Eric_H</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Huh?<br>I got in the car, and drove it. Does that count? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>There is nothing I was told or read in the manual about breaking in the brakes.<br>However, I have not had any all-out/dead hard stops yet.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Here, read this ... it's from a friends site. Step #6 specifically answers your question:<p><A HREF="http://www.formymercedes.com/6_Steps_to_Quiet_Brakes.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.formymercedes.com/6...s.asp</A><p> ... and BTW, the website he references ( <A HREF="http://www.stopbrakenoise.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.stopbrakenoise.com</A> ) stuff really works. I have used it. Unfortunately it is only recommended on new or resurfaced rotors <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> .
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (Eric_H)

I also find that my brakes only squeak when I have not been using them hard enough. A few hard applications removes any glazing or whatever is on there.<p>I think the engine just loosens up a little after you get some miles on it.<p>I typically shift at around 3 grand under normal acceleration, maybe a bit higher actually due to the delay between the motor and the tach. I often skip 4th gear and shift from 3rd to 5th when driving around town.
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (Eric_H)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Eric_H</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">O.K. another question for the guys bored at work (like myself <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> ) at what range do most of you 'manuals' like to drive casually?<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't know if it's just me, but I find it really hard to drive casually and not move at the pace of a snail due to the turbo lag, heavy weight of this car, and finicky clutch. Say I'm at a red light. I do a very gentle launch in 1st. Try to stay smooth in 1st so I don't let the turbo spool up too much so I shift around 2500 rpm. I gently get into 2nd, by that time 5 cars in the other line have passed me and people behind me are honking to get by... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (PhilUp)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I don't know if it's just me, but I find it really hard to drive casually and not move at the pace of a snail due to the turbo lag, heavy weight of this car, and finicky clutch. Say I'm at a red light. I do a very gentle launch in 1st. Try to stay smooth in 1st so I don't let the turbo spool up too much so I shift around 2500 rpm. I gently get into 2nd, by that time 5 cars in the other line have passed me and people behind me are honking to get by... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That describes the exact opposite way that I drove my car. The turbo is addicting. I had a hard time shifting before 3500rpm - 4000rpms <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (PhilUp)

You both can't drive <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (Eric_H)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Eric_H</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">O.K. another question for the guys bored at work (like myself <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> ) at what range do most of you 'manuals' like to drive casually?<br>I hang right around 2500-3000. Past 3 grand, I upshift.<p>So, I understand to jump out of 1st around 4 grand and then wind the rest to 5500? Man, I can't wait! <br>I have a friend who has asked me 4 times already how many miles I have on my car. Only 500, so far....... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The engine's "sweet spot" is really about 2500 to 4500. In typical driving, I always go to at least 4000 in first, and usually take most of the other gears to that same mark before shifting . . . that way you're always in the meaty part of the torque curve -- if you ever need to gun it, you can, and you'll just GO. Once I get to my desired cruising speed, I then upshift into higher gears regardless of rpm, and just cruise in 6th. <p>What you want to try to do when you're <I>not</I> cruising is ensure that you are always in that 2500 to 4500 rpm range. That's where the R sings. Keep her there, and she'll never disappoint when you hit the throttle. <p>Of course, for maximum acceleration runs, I run the rpms beyond 4500.
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (PhilUp)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know if it's just me, but I find it really hard to drive casually and not move at the pace of a snail due to the turbo lag, heavy weight of this car, and finicky clutch. Say I'm at a red light. I do a very gentle launch in 1st. Try to stay smooth in 1st so I don't let the turbo spool up too much so I shift around 2500 rpm. I gently get into 2nd, by that time 5 cars in the other line have passed me and people behind me are honking to get by... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You can get into the upper rpm's smoothly. You just have to modulate the throttle correctly. Learn where your turbo starts to spool up and provide boost (slightly before 2500 rpm), and pre-emptively provide less throttle as you transition into the boost range. <p>So you give it more gas at intial clutch engagement (when the turbo isn't boosting), then give less to compensate for the added boost. If you do it right, your rate of acceleration can be quite smooth and linear. Doing this will allow you to get into that 2500 to 4500 sweet spot, and do so smoothly.<p>If you always shift before 2500, you will get walked EVERY TIME . . . and by illegal immigrants in minivans with the flame stickers going the wrong direction too. That's just embarrassing. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (R Salesman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Salesman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>If you always shift before 2500, you will get walked EVERY TIME . . . and by illegal immigrants in minivans with the flame stickers going the wrong direction too. That's just embarrassing. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>hahaha...that's great!<br>For best results when getting on it, I feather the clutch a bit in which I press the clutch-pedal in while still providing some throttle. This blips the rpm's a bit, and once I engage the clutch she is already going.<br>However, for normal driving, I shift out of first around 2-2500 rpm. This gives me the smoothest shifts into second. Once I get into third gear though, the turbo usually has me flying by people already. With rpm's above 3 grand in first I 90% of the time get that double hitch where my wife flies forward and then backwards.<br>Sometimes I will really exaggerate this just to slam her head into the headrest.<br>She just loooooves that! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (UNO_RACING)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>UNO_RACING</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Really? I beat my breaks to death and they have never squeaked... Did you seat your pads correctly?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't think this has much to do with seating the pads, otherwise there wouldn't be a TNN for installing brake dampers.<p>
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (needsdecaf)

I was just informed that the squeal was a MY04,05 issue. Not a MY06 issue.<br>So, I will need to drop it off to have it looked at.<p>I think I will drive it a while longer to see if it goes away.<p>Eric
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Eric_H</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahaha...that's great!<br>For best results when getting on it, I feather the clutch a bit in which I press the clutch-pedal in while still providing some throttle. This blips the rpm's a bit, and once I engage the clutch she is already going.<br>However, for normal driving, I shift out of first around 2-2500 rpm. This gives me the smoothest shifts into second. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Pretty much the same here. When I'm driving around town I usually shift out of first between 2-2500 RPM. Don't really need too much power in the city unless I'm pulling a hill or something. I usually upshift through the rest of the gears at around 3000 rpm, sometimes skipping a few (like from 2nd to 4th) on level roads.
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (Eric_H)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Eric_H</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was just informed that the squeal was a MY04,05 issue. Not a MY06 issue.<br>So, I will need to drop it off to have it looked at.<p>I think I will drive it a while longer to see if it goes away.<p>Eric</TD></TR></TABLE><p>My new 2006 just did a bit of squeal as I slowly turned into my driveway last night. At that time I was at around 230Km on it and have not done any hard breaking (or hard accelerating). I didn't do it today and I was listening since I did a bunch of window down driving listening to the beautiful exhaust sound.<p>I'm pretty sure the break pad seating/bedding is done before the car is shipped to the dealer so I don't think that's it (or maybe the dealer does it? ...and maybe they did it wrong?). I'm sure they'll fix it for you.<p>LTA<p><br>
 

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Re: So, tell me...how much better does it get? (PhilUp)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know if it's just me, but I find it really hard to drive casually and not move at the pace of a snail due to the turbo lag, heavy weight of this car, and finicky clutch. Say I'm at a red light. I do a very gentle launch in 1st. Try to stay smooth in 1st so I don't let the turbo spool up too much so I shift around 2500 rpm. I gently get into 2nd, by that time 5 cars in the other line have passed me and people behind me are honking to get by... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Dude, even for grandma driving, you should shift at 3000 rpm. That keeps your revs above 2000. Car doesn't move below 2000 rpm. <p>If you are having casual fun to 60 mph, shift at 4000 rpm. That keeps revs above 3000 rpm, where turbo starts.<p>If you are racing, shift at 6000-6500 rpm. Opinions differ here based on torque output, but a good rule of thumb is 6300.
 
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