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I installed this today, thought I would post some pictures that other folks might find useful if they decide to do the same.

Removed strut bar, air box, charge air pipe, Viva strut brace before I took this pict. I did plugs as well as was thinking about installing the Viva CBV I have had sitting on my workbench for the last 6 months or so, so I removed whatever would need to be removed for all 3 jobs..



The hardest part was getting to the clamp that holds the stock intake pipe to the turbo - is in there somewhere...


I ended up removing the WG, which is not big deal as I have a mityvac pressure tester so was able to set it back to 7psi easily enough. Finally I was able to see the damn clamp


Here is a close up ( and a blurry one at that) it is worm clamp that there is VERY little room to do anything down there. The part of the clamp I needed to reach was facing the firewall, I do not think I would have been able to remove it with the waste gate still attached. I was able to orient the new clamp so that the screw was facing up so I could access it after the WG was reinstalled


Success! - you can't really tell in this picture but the stock intake is oval shaped and narrows to about 2 in right before it goes into the turbo while the Snabb one if 3" its entire length


The Snabb intake goes on piece by piece, here it is about 1/2 way done



One word of advice, don't shove the silicone couplers on all the way or the intake will be too short to reach the air box. The instruction say to leave the clamps loose so you can adjust as necessary as you go.

That is a bit tricky because as you are working on the top section, the bottom section that you thought you were done with will separate and much swearing ensues. I ended up snugging up the clamps pretty good after I learned the hard way what happens if you keep then too loose.

I also had to switch the clamp around on the PTC so it would be accessible to tighten. I bought the pipe with the PTC already installed and had to adjust it to get it in a position that would work.

Here are pictures of the intake installed




I was able to see the CBV and am convinced that it would be easier to remove the turbo to install it, my hat is off to the guys who have managed to install it with the turbo still on the car.

Snabb rates this installation as medium difficulty - I think it was a little harder to do than that, the absolute lack of space is th biggest challenge, but it is doable in a few hours with basic hand tools
 

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Good job, Jim!

You can reach the clamp at the inlet to the turbo from the back of the engine. I just slipped a properly sized socket (can't remember the size) on the shortest extension on my smallest ratchet and it fit between the firewall and the turbo so that I could reach the bolt head on the clamp, without having to remove the wastegate.

Don't give up on the CBV install. I know it's a pain in the @ss, but, as you said, you had everything out that needs to be removed in order to install it. To be honest, I think I made my CBV install more difficult by doing it without removing the coolant hose closest to it (contrary to kmgs60R's install procedure). For me, the only three really finicky parts of the install were removing one of the three hex bolts holding the stock CBV in place, maneuvering the HD CBV into place around the coolant hose, and tightening the hex bolt that was difficult to remove. Otherwise, it really wasn't totally awful.

Now I'm upgrading to the Viva hybrid turbo, so I get to remove and reinstall it all again, although at least this time I'm going to do it with the turbo off the car!
 

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So you wussed out on the CBV install? ;) I too have these same parts waiting to go in. I've been debating whether or not to attempt it myself, or make my indy suffer (at least until I pay the bill).
 

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Great advise Jstro! I just got done with the install myself and logged on to post my thoughts on the install.

"The hardest part was getting to the clamp that holds the stock intake pipe to the turbo"

Same for me. The screw was pointing right into the wastegate on my car. I was able to use a long screwdriver secured to the notches in the band, and a hammer to tap the band until the screw shifted into a position that I could undo.
I agree with needing to secure the hose to the turbo while I positioned the rest of the pipe. It will keep popping off when you're fitting the rest of the intake together.
The PTC Element needs to be rotated counter clockwise about 45 Degrees to be able to attach the sensor.
Lack of space is the biggest challenge through out the install.

Turbo spool and ViVA CBV are much louder with post MAF intake. Throttle response felt really good, but it's hard to tell how much better since I haven't driven the car in a few weeks.
 

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So you wussed out on the CBV install?
Sniff, Sniff, "sheads a tear of humilitation" yes........
I sort of convinced myself that it made more sense to combine the CBV with a preventivive collar gear replacement (and maybe since the turbo will be pulled anyway possibly do a Viva Hybrid......)
 

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Sniff, Sniff, "sheads a tear of humilitation" yes........
I sort of convinced myself that it made more sense to combine the CBV with a preventivive collar gear replacement (and maybe since the turbo will be pulled anyway possibly do a Viva Hybrid......)
jstro thanks for posting this thread up. I'm glad the install was successful and I'll be sure ammend the instructions where needed and alter the angle that I install the PTC's as well as flip the position of the PTC clamp so it's accessible.

Happy New Year,
Kristian
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jstro thanks for posting this thread up. I'm glad the install was successful and I'll be sure ammend the instructions where needed and alter the angle that I install the PTC's as well as flip the position of the PTC clamp so it's accessible.

Happy New Year,
Kristian
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It took all of two seconds to flip the clamp so it really was not big deal. I realized the clamp position would be a problem while I was test fitting everthing. You do need to be cognizant of how you are going to access each of the clamps once they are on the car, pretty common sense stuff though.
 

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IMHO, anything you can do to obtain a freer flowing intake and exhaust is worth it. And all the extra noise you get from the turbo spooling and the CBV makes SNABB's intake pipe very worth it. Lol
 

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Is it worth the work and money ? Road experience ?
Haven't really had a chance to test it. With all the blue light cowboys looking for drunks, New Years eve is less than the optimum time to test performance mods, and it is raining hard today with standing water all over the place.

The car is smoother but that is more than likely attributable to the new plugs, the old ones were probably the originals (43K miles).

Honestly, I am not expecting a huge difference like a tune or DP probably a few HP as best, but anything you can do to make the car breathe better is going to be beneficial
 

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My .02

I also did the install yesterday, and figured I'd throw my two cents in.

I agree with jstro...the hardest part is getting to the clamp that holds the stock pipe on. It is right below the wastegate. I can't imagine getting it off without removing the wastegate first. Taking off the strut bar created some valuable space as well. There was plenty of hand scraping, cursing and lying on top of the engine.

The piece goes on nicely and is well engineered. I've driven the car a bit and the car does seem to breathe better. Throttle response and sound are clearly improved. Nice work SNABB!
 

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Took the car out for a 120 mile round trip last night. Increased throttle response was very noticeable, and the turbo seamed to spool up a bit faster too.
Between the performance gains and the sounds that I'm getting from the turbo and the CBV, I'd buy the intake pipe all over again in a heart beat.
 

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Why would VOLVO neck down the stock intake as an oval 2" right before it goes into the turbo??? Is there such a thing as too much intake for the turbo?
 

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Why would VOLVO neck down the stock intake as an oval 2" right before it goes into the turbo??? Is there such a thing as too much intake for the turbo?
Probably was easier to assemble with the little bit of added space they got by squeezing down the stock intake. No such thing as too much air as long as it is getting mixed with the appropiate amount of fuel
 

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A MAF max. reading before and after would be interesting to see if it flows more and what amount. Mine flows about 236 g/s at full trottle in 4th gear @ 5300 rpm. Not really impressive compared to other cars...

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According to my calculations, 236 g/s at 5300 RPM corresponds to about 16.5 psi of boost for a 2.5 liter engine (assuming 90% volumetric efficiency). What boost levels were you reading?

I think jstro should be able to get you some MAF flow readings with his scangauge to compare. I can do it in a couple of days (with my custom post-MAF intake tube) using my new scangauge, but it will have to wait until after I receive my order from Tasca Volvo that includes the replacement clips to fix my broken driver's side window mechanism.

Cheers,

Jeff
 

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According to my calculations, 236 g/s at 5300 RPM corresponds to about 16.5 psi of boost for a 2.5 liter engine (assuming 90% volumetric efficiency). What boost levels were you reading?
At least 19 to 21 psi. It was around 15° F outside. You can see two pulls, first is 3rd gear from down low then 4th. Cleaned the MAF yesterday but it was not really dirty. Readings have not changed that much. Car pulls hard but the readings seemed low to me.
 

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Started my install last night got the stock turbo inlet pipe off without taking the wg off but let me tell u what a bitch this was and trying to fit everything in there but have the whole intake in just have to put the ams box in and tighted everything up took me about 1.5 hrs so far idd say i really hope its worth it for all this trouble making this thing fit.
 

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sounds like the install will be fun... I'm certainly waiting for warmer weather to do mine. I have a LONG list of items going on in the spring so i'm not in a real hurry.
 

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Intalled mine and love it... Great product...Pulls harder, making more boost in all gears and boost response like I never thought my volvo R would have...:D Plus the combination of my AMS, SNABB Intake Pipe and the Viva HD CBV it is sexy music to my ears... Awe I love it!!!
 
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