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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr. T5:<BR><B>Does any of you use the engine treatment from Slick 50? Is it useful in anyway?<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>Stay away from gimmicks like that...why would you waste your money when all you need to do is maintain your car normally? No offense, by reading your posts I take it that you are attached to you car and you want to "treat it right" but you seem to worry too much about too many "little things"...Just enjoy it! Drive it, have fun and maintain it according to what the manual requests!<P><BR>Yannis<BR><P>
 

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<BR>I believe Slick 50 is not a gimmick. At least it isn't a gimmick to the extent that Teflon is not a gimmick.<P>I've seen the dramatic positive effect that using teflon to coat parts with metal surfaces that rub each other (like in an engine or gear box) can have on the longevity of those parts myself - in industrial applications as well as in auto engines. In fact it was after I saw it in industry that I became convinced and started using it in my car.<P>I used the traditional Slick 50 with teflon in an old Acura, and I'm satisfied that it's part of what helped it get to nearly the quarter million mile mark.<P>I used it as part of an oil change every 40-50,000 miles, and then added a little bit (just a little) with every change in between also to freshen the presence of clean teflon in the engine.<P>In short, using a teflon additive like Slick 50 certainly is no substitute for following proper oil change procedures, but for the extra $50.00 or so you'll spend every 100,000 miles on the teflon protection, it's certainly worth it to me. It would be especially beneficial if used from the time the car is new. And it cerainly will not hurt the engine when used properly - one bottle substituted for a quart of oil during an oil change every 40-50,000 miles.<P>I know the teflon works, and $50.00 is hardly a waste, or a burden. You'll spend more than that on toothpaste before you've gone 100,000 miles. And if you can afford the $35,000 car, $50.00 every 100,000 miles will be less than an afterthought.<P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by z_drago:<BR><B><BR>I believe Slick 50 is not a gimmick. At least it isn't a gimmick to the extent that Teflon is not a gimmick.<P>I've seen the dramatic positive effect that using teflon to coat parts with metal surfaces that rub each other (like in an engine or gear box) can have on the longevity of those parts myself - in industrial applications as well as in auto engines. In fact it was after I saw it in industry that I became convinced and started using it in my car.<P>I used the traditional Slick 50 with teflon in an old Acura, and I'm satisfied that it's part of what helped it get to nearly the quarter million mile mark.<P>I used it as part of an oil change every 40-50,000 miles, and then added a little bit (just a little) with every change in between also to freshen the presence of clean teflon in the engine.<P>In short, using a teflon additive like Slick 50 certainly is no substitute for following proper oil change procedures, but for the extra $50.00 or so you'll spend every 100,000 miles on the teflon protection, it's certainly worth it to me. It would be especially beneficial if used from the time the car is new. And it cerainly will not hurt the engine when used properly - one bottle substituted for a quart of oil during an oil change every 40-50,000 miles.<P>I know the teflon works, and $50.00 is hardly a waste, or a burden. You'll spend more than that on toothpaste before you've gone 100,000 miles. And if you can afford the $35,000 car, $50.00 every 100,000 miles will be less than an afterthought.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Thanks for your input, the thing that bothers me is that Volvo indicated in the manual that it does not recommend oil additives and yet some other engine manufacturers claim that slick 50 damages the engine. But do you think they are right?<P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr. T5:<BR><B> Thanks for your input, the thing that bothers me is that Volvo indicated in the manual that it does not recommend oil additives and yet some other engine manufacturers claim that slick 50 damages the engine. But do you think they are right?<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>Additives like Slick 50 MAY (and I emphasize MAY) help an engine that is totally worn out or on its way out. I have seen many studies where they indicated that additives that contain useful items like teflon although when applied to engine parts they are helpful, in the form that they come in (like Slick 50) they are totally useless. No car manufacturer has come out and endorsed such additive...does that tell you something?<P>Especially in your case, where you have a brand new car. Do yourself a favor, stay away. At best, you will be waisting your money...at the worst, you may be harming components of your car.<P>Yannis<P><P>
 

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Stay away from the additives, especially if you've got a turbo. The extra additives may gum up critical areas, like the hot turbo bearings or the piston rings. My '91 T-bird had carbon-filled oil rings at 88,000 miles (they didn't work when gunked up thusly, so the car was using a quart every 500 miles.) and I had a '79 Mustang turbo that blew its turbo bearing seals. Granted that was an early model and hopefully things have gotten better since then.<P>My advice is to change the oil with Mobil 1 and just leave it at that. The engine internals will stay cleaner and have less, if any, varnish buildup. This is good because the varnish is what gums things up & prevents oil flow in valve lifters & other critical tight tolerance areas (like turbo bearings, e.g.) The engine will last a LONG time with the synthetic.
 

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I really don't know anything about Slick 50 or other oil treatments, but I have heard nothing but great things about <B>Chevron Techron</B>. Even BMW recommends that owners put this in their new cars every 3,000 miles. It is a fuel system treatment that is supposed to be great for any age car as well. This is supposedly why Chevron has the best gasoline additive packages at their gas stations as compared to everyone else.<P>-Drew
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by InDy:<BR><B>I really don't know anything about Slick 50 or other oil treatments, but I have heard nothing but great things about Chevron Techron</B>. Even BMW recommends that owners put this in their new cars every 3,000 miles. It is a fuel system treatment that is supposed to be great for any age car as well. This is supposedly why Chevron has the best gasoline additive packages at their gas stations as compared to everyone else.<P>-Drew<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Techron is totally different than Slick 50. It is a GAS additive that has additional detergents to help keep the fuel injectors unclogged. It is a very good product and we use it all the time. But, personally, I use premium gas all the time so I do not use it on my cars. But for someone who uses Regular gasoline (and you should not if you are driving a Volvo that is a 1993 or newer) it will help the injectors perform better.<P>Yannis<P><P>
 
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