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Silly question but somehow it bugs me some...

OK - someone probably knows the answer to this one, and if it really is obvious I apologize for asking.<p>So here's the question: During morning hours, for example, when daylight is slowly appearing it's questionable whether the headlights or DRLs are operative. While sitting in the driver's seat how can I tell which ones are operative without seeing reflections in the rear of a car in front or some other reflection that shows me the front of the car? I searched the handbook and find no clues. I've searched the drivers display and find no clues there either.<p>THis isn't a big issue for me, but somehow it bugs me that I can't tell. I don't want to mod the car for example just to be alerted to the headlights vs. DRLs being operative either.<p>Thanks for any insights. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (barrysharp)

Headlights are a bright white color with a much higher light output than the DRLs. You can definitely can tell the difference. <br>If not, cover the sensor and see what happens.
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (mike_c70)

Thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> - but in the wee morning hours I cannot decern if the DRLs or headlights are on as there's liitle to no light on the road surface in front of the car.<p>If I cover the daylight sensor under the lowest climate control three button set all this will ensure is that the headlights are on so that doesn't do it for me I'm afraid.<p>I'm looking for a definitive confirmation with stock car configuration.
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (barrysharp)

You know what keeps me up at night? Not knowing whether the light in the refrigerator <B>really</B> goes out when I close the door...<br>
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (TomW)

I find that the DRL's look bright enough from the inside that I forget to turn on my real lights quite a bit.
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (waccamatt)

I think the DRL's automatically turn into regular low beams when it gets dark. Yes??? oclv
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (oclv)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>oclv</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think the DRL's automatically turn into regular low beams when it gets dark. Yes??? oclv</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And the regular beams turn into DRL during the day. Right?<p>It doesn't matter in what position the switch is. It seems to work the same. I just leave it in the ON position all the time.
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (TomW)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>TomW</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know what keeps me up at night? Not knowing whether the light in the refrigerator <B>really</B> goes out when I close the door...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Get yourself a frig with a glass door then. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Hey, as I tried to say in my original post this really is of no consequence and I certainly don't lose sleep over it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> lol.
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (barrysharp)

Not a silly question. I wish Volvo had put an indicator lamp on the dash that shows when the headlights (not DRLs) are on. So when I'm driving at dusk, I know when they have switched on. My Lexus has such an indicator light on the dash, so I'm used to that.<p>My parents' 1993 Cadillac DeVille had as standard equipment the indicators on top of each front fender that showed the status of <I></I>three<I></I> lights: the low and high beams, and turn signal lamps. Each of these bulbs were connected by fiber optics to the indicators on top of the fenders. When these bulbs were lit, the indicators would light up white, blue, and amber, respectively. And there was a fiber-optic indicator panel inside the car, above the rear window, that lit-up red when the tail-lamps and brake-lamps activated. I always liked that feature. I'm sure some of you are familiar with these Cadillacs. I think this feature was gone on their 1997 DeVille.
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (BrunoS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BrunoS</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>And the regular beams turn into DRL during the day. Right?<p>It doesn't matter in what position the switch is. It seems to work the same. I just leave it in the ON position all the time.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Then your car is strange. If you leave the swtich in the 12:00 position, your main beams will be on all the time.
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Then your car is strange. If you leave the swtich in the 12:00 position, your main beams will be on all the time. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, it is either this or have your settings changed to inactivate the light sensor.<p>I noticed driving down a shady road one day that the lights kept switching back and forth from DRL to low beam, almost to the point where it might have been annoying to the person in front of me. After that I just deactivated the light sensor and now 9:00=DRL and 12:00=low beam.
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (barrysharp)

Barry:<p>I don't have an answer to your question but do you like the DRLs/"auto-on/off" feature of the lights? I know it's simply a matter of preference but per the following thread, I was able to turn-off the DRLs as I think it is a much cleaner look:<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=57493" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=57493</A><p>(I'm aware this may not work for your '04 but didn't know if it was worth investigating further)<p>Regards,<p>Derek<br>
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (I Roll)

My previous T5 was weird like that. In both the 9 and 12 o'clock position the DRLs would be on until it got dark (which was wrong). Dealer finally changed that. On my R, at 9 oclock the DRLs are on until it is dark or you're in a garage etc...but in the 12 oclock position the xenons are always on.<p>I too would like to know which ones are on. Sometimes I even walk around front to find out. The way I know is that I almost always leave it in the 9 oclock position and when I pull out of my garage I see the xenons on and then sometimes I can tell or if it's quiet you can actually hear a click when the xenons go off and my silverstar DRLs go on.<p>But I agree...it would be nice to have an indicatior.
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (bb vign)

Here's a tidbit I've been pondering...<p>My old 850 used to burn out dash bulbs fairly often because they always seemed to be on. It seems to me that dash illumination is now strictly controlled by the daylight sensor. In other words, the DRLs or headlights can be on, but if it's daylight, the dash lights seem to be off.<p>True?
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (Dyno)

No...not true in the newer cars.<p>On my '98 in the 9 oclock position when the DRLs are off (if the screw is in the 10:30 position) the dash lights are also off, but in my '06 in both the 9 and 12 oclock positions the dash lights are always on.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by soledoc at 9:43 AM 8-4-2006</i>
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (Dyno)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dyno</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's a tidbit I've been pondering...<p>My old 850 used to burn out dash bulbs fairly often because they always seemed to be on. It seems to me that dash illumination is now strictly controlled by the daylight sensor. In other words, the DRLs or headlights can be on, but if it's daylight, the dash lights seem to be off.<p>True?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The overhead "spotlight" LEDs that illuminate the face of the gauges are ALWAYS on....bright, dark, 9:00 position 12:00 position, regardless. However, they are LED's so that's not a big deal. <p>The lights behind the faces for the needles and the "tic" marks come on seeming independantly of when the xenons automatically come on. At least this has been my experience. <p>The bulbs behind the dash are LED's too, apparently....<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=61982&page=2" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...age=2</A><p>Therefore, no big deal to how long the gauges are lit...they're not gonna burn out!
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (needsdecaf)

Thank you.<p>It's good to know I won't have to tear apart the friggin' dash anytime soon. Hate that.
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The overhead "spotlight" LEDs that illuminate the face of the gauges are ALWAYS on....bright, dark, 9:00 position 12:00 position, regardless. However, they are LED's so that's not a big deal. <p>The lights behind the faces for the needles and the "tic" marks come on seeming independantly of when the xenons automatically come on. At least this has been my experience. <p>The bulbs behind the dash are LED's too, apparently....<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=61982&page=2" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...age=2</A><p>Therefore, no big deal to how long the gauges are lit...they're not gonna burn out!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually the backlite part of the gauges (what you described as the tics) come on about two seconds or so after the xenon's come on.<p>In fact, Barry, this is one way to know if the xenon's are on. If you look carefully you should be able to see the "tics" lite up which means the main headlights are on. I see this everyday when I go through the two tunnels on I-90 coming and going out of Seattle.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by flybynight at 12:54 PM 8-4-2006</i>
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (flybynight)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flybynight</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Actually the backlite part of the gauges (what you described as the tics) come on about two seconds or so after the xenox's come on.<p>In fact, Barry, this is one way to know if the xenox' are on. If you look carefully you should be able to see the "tics" lite up which means the main headlights are on. I see this everyday when I go through the two tunnels on I-90 coming and going out of Seattle.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, but what about when the xenon's are on in broad daylight? My wife likes to drive this way (I know, I know, but it's her car).
 

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Re: Silly question but somehow it bugs me some... (barrysharp)

It also bugs me when I drove the R too.<p>At least in the 2003 XC90, I could hear a distinct click-click when the DRL switches to bi-xenons (two clicks - one switches off the DRL, then one switches on the bi-xenon). Even with the stereo up, I still hear them.<p>Not in the R, they just switch without any click sounds. I thought they would be the same since they're P2 platforms.<p>On the 2005 S40, I told the dealer to disable the DRL since the S40 uses the bixenon as DRL anyway<p>On the 2004.5 S40, the bi-xenon is on all the time ... 24/7/365 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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