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I bought my 96 850 turbo from this website with 92K miles. It now has 138K miles and:<p>-suspension is not good<br>-a/c is dead (evaporator most likely)<br>-at idle it smokes - burns oil<br>-need timing belt<p>Other than that, lol, tranny is still good and it runs strong. It has new fuel pump, regulator, fuel filter...<p>All the signs are telling me to give up on the car. I would love to see it in 100% OEM condition but I don't think it is worth it.. What do you guys think?<p>It is black with 16 inch wheels and the winter package.
 

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Re: Should it stay or should it go? (k20a)

The question is whether or not the car is worth to you the $4k plus it is going to cost(assuming you take the car to the dealer) to bring the car back to the standards at which you want it to be. If not, I am sure a local Volvo mechanic would be very interested indeed in acquiring the automobile, as the labour charge is really the backbreaker in regards to the parts that you have enumerated. Have a good one <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Should it stay or should it go? (k20a)

He's right. This is about 85% labor so if you can find a good hearted mechanic to work at, say $50 and hour you could get away with having everything done and completed for <B>under 2K.</B><br>Do you want to spend that much?
 

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Re: Should it stay or should it go? (JRL)

I can see getting the suspension and A/C fixed.. What about the oil burning? Most likely bad rings... who knows what.. That motor smokes like crazy at idle. I don't want to buy a used motor because most likely it will have a lot of miles as well... <p>Rebuilding the motor is an option, I could go all out and replace pistons, rings, valves, rods, seals, etc... But that would be $$$... <p>I love the car.. don;t get me wrong.. The kids love it too... I just don;t know.. There seem to be more electrical things that can go wrong.. For example, the driver's seat stop moving for a while and then it worked again.,.,.<p>I am an engineer but not a mechanic by profession.. As as hobbie, I like to work on honda motors.<p>Here's my daily driver.. A 1992 Civic with a 2004 TSX motor with 6 speed LSD tranny.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.k20a.org/upload/DSC00412.JPG" BORDER="0"> I did everything on my own, including putting a rsx type s head on the block etc. Needless to say, the car is fast... only 200olbs will do that on a 230whp all motor car...<p>But I never really worked on volvo motors so I am not sure I want to start now..<p>Is there a place in the USA that sells replacement longblocks for my 96 turbo that are brand new?<p>thanks for all the wonderful input, <p>Nikos
 

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Re: Should it stay or should it go? (k20a)

Forgot about the smoking.<br>You're probably better off selling it for whatever you can get and buy another wagon, either an 850 tubo, (if you can find a decent one) or a good V70 (I have 2 great ones for sale <B>with warranties </B><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> ).<br>This was not a sales pitch (well, maybe a small one) but this is probably what you should do, whether you buy from me or not.<br>You will spend SO much money on a car that already has 135K miles, not economically feasable, IMO <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>JRL
 

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Sounds like that car had had a rough life. Did you get maintenance records on it when you bought it? <p>There is a High Mileage Club out there & some Turbobricks members with some Volvos with much higher mileage with (reportedly) the original motor & still running well.<p>Agreed, if you are talking about motor work on top of the other repairs, you will put more into the car than it is actually worth. <br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Taleof2Bricks2</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like that car had had a rough life. Did you get maintenance records on it when you bought it? <p>There is a High Mileage Club out there & some Turbobricks members with some Volvos with much higher mileage with (reportedly) the original motor & still running well.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>What does all this have to do with his problem at hand? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> It's <B>his</B> and now<B> his</B> problem.
 

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Re: Should it stay or should it go? (k20a)

Cool Honda. Use to do them myself once upon a time. Was wondering why the motor was backward until i read further. That thing must run great.<p>Take some of that Honda money you got there and sink some into that 850.<p>Would like to see more pics of that Honda too <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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...nothing to do with "his problem at hand", agreed. <p>The point was that it is a known fact that these cars can go many more miles with NO engine troubles.<p>Just a comment, like the millions of others posted here, but thanks for your keen observation. Nice to know Swedespeed has full time post monitors (punctuation and spell checkers, too!) to keep things in order.<p>
 

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Re: Should it stay or should it go? (k20a)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>k20a</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bought my 96 850 turbo from this website with 92K miles. It now has 138K miles and:<p>-at idle it smokes - burns oil<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Rather than assuming that the piston rings are bad...<p>I would perform an engine compression test. Compare dry and wet readings. Burning oil could be simple problem as clogged PCV/oil seperator system. Also, could be problem with valves. <p>The reason that I ask...<p>Most likely, the engine did not burn oil at 92K miles when you bought it. Now at 138K miles, it is burning oil even though you performed oil changes at regular intervals. Rings just don't wear out like that. This leads me to believe that oil burning problem lies somewhere else outside of wore piston rings. <p>
 

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Re: Should it stay or should it go? (robert213)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>robert213</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Rather than assuming that the piston rings are bad...<p>I would perform an engine compression test. Compare dry and wet readings. Burning oil could be simple problem as clogged PCV/oil seperator system. Also, could be problem with valves. <p>The reason that I ask...<p>Most likely, the engine did not burn oil at 92K miles when you bought it. Now at 138K miles, it is burning oil even though you performed oil changes at regular intervals. Rings just don't wear out like that. This leads me to believe that oil burning problem lies somewhere else outside of wore piston rings. <p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>All very possible but if he needs a valve job, again a costly proposition, it's cost ineffective on a car that also needs a lot more work besids the oil burning
 

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Re: Should it stay or should it go? (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Forgot about the smoking.<br>You're probably better off selling it for whatever you can get and buy another wagon, either an 850 tubo, (if you can find a decent one) or a good V70 <br>JRL</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Absolutely. Unless your planning on building a motor like I did, sell the damn thing or burn it and get insurance from it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>That being said, you should be able to find a much much much nicer car for not much more money out there. A buddy of mine just picked up a very nice s70T5M for less than 6k.
 

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Re: Should it stay or should it go? (doug242ti)

Buy my T5 wagon, not too expensive and a REAL good one <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>JRL
 

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Re: Should it stay or should it go? (k20a)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>k20a</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Rebuilding the motor is an option, I could go all out and replace pistons, rings, valves, rods, seals, etc... But that would be $$$... <p>I love the car.. don;t get me wrong.. The kids love it too... <p>I am an engineer but not a mechanic by profession.. As as hobbie, I like to work on honda motors.<p></TD></TR></TABLE> <p>It sounds like you have the ability to rebuild the motor if it comes down to that. I guess that it comes down to the condition of the paint, body and interior -- and how much you love the car. <p>You could always buy another 1996-97 850-T5/R and keep this one as a parts car. <p>You could always buy a 1998 S70 T5. <p>You could always buy a 2004 or newer S60 T5. <p>I prefer just about everything about the 1996-97 850-T5/R over the S70 and S60. In my opinion, the 1996-97 model years are easier to work on for do-it-yourself guys like me. <p>
 

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if you have had the car longer than 3 years, it is paid for. fix the smoke at idle, probably a PCV problem. if you get a puff at startup, that's valve seals and you'd need about a $1,000 head job. fix that, sell it with fixer upper on the suspension, timing belt, and AC. Take the $2,000 and buy newer car.
 

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All of you problems could be easily repaired by you and you could get another 100k easy. My wagon went 242k before I grenaded it out hot rodding. No fault of the engine either. I have replaced the engine and still drive it today.<p>If you can do it your self you will be better off in the long run and have it the way you want it<p>If he takes the $2000 and buys a newer car he will really be at the dealers mercy and won't have any upgrades.<p>
 
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