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Hi everybody, I'm new to the forum and I'm on the market for a new car. I want to thank everybody for your help and advice. I posted this thread on other forums to get as much advice as possible, so if you read this somwhere else I'm sorry, and thanks again for taking the time to read it!<p>I've been looking at Saab 93 aero (didn't like the handling), 330/325i (didn't think they were all that great and the inside felt cheap), acura TL (I like the interior but the car wasn't too thrilling to drive), and s60 T5 (I love the interior, haven't driven it yet). Basically, I narrowed my list to s60 T5 and acura TL.<p>I'm in between an Acura TL and an s60 T5, both new. Which one would you advice and why. In other words, what are the advantages of the T5 against the TL.<p>Another question, is the T5 as reliable as the TL? I'm not very familiar with the volvo maintenance so any help is appreciated.<p>Finally, what's the difference bw the s40 t5 and the s60 t5? Which one's quicker?<p>Thanks again guys!<br>
 

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Re: Shopping advice!!! (Imtheweezel)

Hey there, well to be honest with you, I would go with the Acura TL. It will be much more reliable than the S60. However, if you are not planning on having the car forever, and don't mind some fixes here and there, get the S60. <p>I would not get the S40 T5, because it is ford based in terms of shared parts. A lot of people will argue that it isn't a ford, but my opinion is that it is. It is up to you to decide. The S60 T5 is much stronger because of the longer wheel base. <p>I do like the TL in terms of design, it has a much more aggressive look. <br><IMG SRC="http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/05.luxury.cars.under.35k/05.volvo.s60.500.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/05.luxury.cars.under.35k/05.acura.tl.500.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Shopping advice!!! (Imtheweezel)

This will come off as heresy to some of the Forum members, but the principal reason I went with Volvo was the Ford connection. Saab is on its own in the US, for the most part, and Honda has an attitude. Volvo is about the only thing Ford can hold onto in terms of quality and safety and everything else the Brand gets them, and will therefore be jealous of customer loyalty and repeat buys. Never doubt the Ford understanding of what they have with the Volvo brand. <p>None of this is technical nor particularly aesthetic, but simply a business-person's view of why Volvo is the better bet. <p>Joe
 

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Acura TLs can have expensive transmission issues - not sure what years, though. <p>Drive them both and pick the one you like, they're both good cars
 

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Re: Shopping advice!!! (Imtheweezel)

I have taken out the Acura TL and compared it with my car.<p>The Acura TL is nice... it's ok... it doesn't have the power I have, it's doesn't look as cool... the seats aren't that great (I'm comparing now) but it's all about what you like.<p>The volvo is much nicer in my opinion.
 

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Re: Shopping advice!!! (myVolvoS60T5)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>myVolvoS60T5</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey there, well to be honest with you, I would go with the Acura TL. It will be much more reliable than the S60. However, if you are not planning on having the car forever, and don't mind some fixes here and there, get the S60. <p>I would not get the S40 T5, because it is ford based in terms of shared parts. A lot of people will argue that it isn't a ford, but my opinion is that it is. It is up to you to decide. The S60 T5 is much stronger because of the longer wheel base. <p>I do like the TL in terms of design, it has a much more aggressive look. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I could not disagree more especially in your assessment of the S40 T5 and the fact that the S60 T5 is not reliable.<p>He needs to drive both and, then, he can make the best decision for him.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: Shopping advice!!! (Imtheweezel)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Imtheweezel</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm in between an Acura TL and an s60 T5, both new. Which one would you advice and why. In other words, what are the advantages of the T5 against the TL.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>If we are going to use the idiots at Consumer Reports to bash Volvo, etc., let's use them also when they provide positive feedback. Both cars are RECOMMENDED by the lawnmower experts.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another question, is the T5 as reliable as the TL? I'm not very familiar with the volvo maintenance so any help is appreciated.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The S60, overall, is extremely reliable. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Finally, what's the difference bw the s40 t5 and the s60 t5? Which one's quicker?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Depends on the tranny. Either way, they are very close. Less turbo lag with the S40 but the S60 has longer legs and is friendlier when it comes to upgrades.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: Shopping advice!!! (Imtheweezel)

I believe the TL is more expensive than the T5. The S60 has much nicer exterior styling than the TL so I would choose it just for that. The interior is somewhat dated but it still holds on.
 

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Re: Shopping advice!!! (BrunoS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BrunoS</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe the TL is more expensive than the T5. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's not. The T5 (equally equipped) is more expensive than the TL.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: Shopping advice!!! (GrecianVolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GrecianVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>It's not. The T5 (equally equipped) is more expensive than the TL.<p>Yannis</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sticker price....yes. Out the door price after incentives....doubtful.
 

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Re: Shopping advice!!! (MagoonR)

S60 T5 will be reliable if you are good about taking care of it and performing the recommended service. I've had my '04 S60 T5 for almost 2 years and have had not major issues (except hitting a deer!). I am very happy with the car. I hate the Acura interior, seats, and I second the transmission problems. I know someone who has an '03/'04 TL and had the transmission rebuilt within 6 months, but that could have just been a lemon.<p>I think your choice is a good one but you need to drive them both and decide. Looking at automatic or stick?
 

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my 01 T5 said bye bye to TL too many times with just a chip, right now i think i can say bye bye to RL very easy- Get the T5
 

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Make sure you spend some time sitting in the cars for a long while. I had an acura, and on long trips the seats became very uncomfortable. Once I got an S60, I could drive forever (even after pulling my back out) with little discomfort.<p>You can ask around all the question you like and get everyone's opinion. In the end, both of these are "good" cars. If either had any major flaws, they wouldn't both be selling so well. The one you like will be the one you're happy with. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I agree! get the S60 T5 and soop it up like (volvos60t5x).<p>Even my 2.4T with BSR will outrun a stock TL. (I have not run side by side, only compared the two cars by driving). The interior also sucks in the Acura.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Freeworld</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The one you like will be the one you're happy with. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Very, VERY wise words. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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