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I took the car in for a crunch into 2nd, and they upgraded the cables, spring pin, and gear selector lever - it made a huge difference. The shifter now feels much more direct (albeit a bit more rubbery in neutral), and goes into gear smoothly. There is no vibration through the shifter now, at any engine speed. <p>I also noticed that the upper engine mount was getting cracked, and they replaced the old round mount with this:<p><IMG SRC="http://kropp.poetshome.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_7238.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://kropp.poetshome.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_7237.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>It appears to be a new mount, and the car is <I>much</I> smoother with this mount. Shifting is better, with much less effort required to shift smoothly, and there is less vibration through the wheel and chassis (referencing when my engine mount was not broken). <p>The part # for the mount is: 30680770
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (Grendel)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Grendel</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I took the car in for a crunch into 2nd, and they upgraded the cables, spring pin, and gear selector lever - it made a huge difference. The shifter now feels much more direct (albeit a bit more rubbery in neutral), and goes into gear smoothly. There is no vibration through the shifter now, at any engine speed. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Is this the clunky noise when going into 2nd or something else? I plan on getting the motor mount update on my next visit since hairline cracks are appearing on the existing one.
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (MagoonR)

Why not just get the Evolve or IPD/Powerflex bushing? Supposedly lasts forever.
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (PhilUp)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why not just get the Evolve or IPD/Powerflex bushing? Supposedly lasts forever.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And it's a bunch stiffer and transmits more vibration. May not be someone's cuppa.
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Is this the clunky noise when going into 2nd or something else? I plan on getting the motor mount update on my next visit since hairline cracks are appearing on the existing one.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was getting a crunch when shifting into second from first at full throttle, as if the 2nd gear synchro was bad. That seems to be gone now that the new cables and engine mount are in. Interestingly though, I now experience a bit of turbo overrun when upshifting at high rpm now, and this wasn't there before. <p>I never got a clunk going into second, but I did have a nasty drive line lash clunkiness when stepping on the clutch during engine braking in 1st. That seems to be reduced as well. <p>As for the evolve mount, my dealer is extremely mod-unfriendly. They've been pretty good in other areas so I'll try something like that post warranty, if I keep the car. Now though, I'd have to change back to the old mounting arm to get a round bushing in there it seems..... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"><p>
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (Grendel)

I have an infrequent crunch going into second from 1st under hard acceleration as well (NOT speed-shifting). Is the upgrade only for 04s?<p>TIA,<p>Derek<br>
 

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Grendel,<br>What dealership do you go to? and do you think that they'll cover the shifter cables for me even though i'm at 60K and into my extended warranty?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SHIFT_S60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Grendel,<br>What dealership do you go to? and do you think that they'll cover the shifter cables for me even though i'm at 60K and into my extended warranty? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I got my R from Volvo Village in Clearwater. They have done almost all of the service. I saw you post in Rangeball's thread about dealers in the Tampa area, so I'll tell you what I know of the three. <p>I had a few problems initially with VV, as mine was one of a few R's they sold, so there were some teething issues. I now have a great relationship with them (doug) and they are very accomodating for the most part. They seem quite against mods of any kind though, so if you're planning on modding (or already have), I'd stay away from them. <p>Ferman in Tarpon Springs seems to be not too mod friendly, and I don't think they've seen too many R's either.<p>Volvo of Tampa is much better in this respect - they aren't afraid of mods, and will do installs. I've gone over there a few times to have tires mounted as they have a road force balancer. They deal with more people who mod their cars than VV, so they're much better at dealing with those issues. Eli is a cool guy, and seems to want to help people like us. One of their techs rode with me in my car for a good 15 minutes once to address some tire issues I had. <p>Any one of the three would do the cable upgrade for you I would think as you have an extended warranty, but it probably depends on the type of ex. warr. you have and what it covers. I remember reading something about someone being stranded after Ferman in Tarpon changed their cables and didn't do it correctly - I'd go to VV or TV. I wouldn't go in and just ask for the cable upgrade though - tell them you're getting a buzz in the shifter in 5th, and that there is a crunch in 2nd (mine was quite bad). If you just go in to ask for the upgrade they probably won't do it, as they have to log a reason for the repair. <br>
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (bb vign)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bb vign</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have an infrequent crunch going into second from 1st under hard acceleration as well (NOT speed-shifting). Is the upgrade only for 04s?<p>TIA,<p>Derek</TD></TR></TABLE><p>My crunch was infrequent as well, but it happened often enough to warrant attention. They probably switched to the new cable system in mid to late 05 (completely guessing), so you might have the old system. There is a TNN your dealer should be able to pull, and it should indicate the vin range that applies to the old cables. If you have a crunch into 2nd, you probably either have the old cables, or need an adjustment.
 

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thanks for the reply.<p>it sounds like tampa volvo is my dealership. no mods yet, at least not until i'm out of this warranty. thanks again. hope to see you on the road.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SHIFT_S60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the reply.<p>it sounds like tampa volvo is my dealership. no mods yet, at least not until i'm out of this warranty. thanks again. hope to see you on the road.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>To go off of what Grendel said Volvo of Tampa has been good to myself, Grendel and IwantaS60R. Eli and John are outstanding guys. I would definitely say they are mod friendly but they are <B>clear</B> to point out that warranties are voided with mod's. I don't press the issue, I just ask that they are fair if a problem arises and that is what we all agree on.<p>The problem is that it is not their call if an issue arises, it is up to the regional rep. I have met him and he seems to be a nice guy but I am not expecting him to be copasetic to any problems that arise from mod's. He is a business man and with mod's you have to pay to play, as is said over and over around here.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Grendel</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got my R from Volvo Village in Clearwater. They have done almost all of the service. I saw you post in Rangeball's thread about dealers in the Tampa area, so I'll tell you what I know of the three. <p>I had a few problems initially with VV, as mine was one of a few R's they sold, so there were some teething issues. I now have a great relationship with them (doug) and they are very accomodating for the most part. They seem quite against mods of any kind though, so if you're planning on modding (or already have), I'd stay away from them. <p>Ferman in Tarpon Springs seems to be not too mod friendly, and I don't think they've seen too many R's either.<p>Volvo of Tampa is much better in this respect - they aren't afraid of mods, and will do installs. I've gone over there a few times to have tires mounted as they have a road force balancer. They deal with more people who mod their cars than VV, so they're much better at dealing with those issues. Eli is a cool guy, and seems to want to help people like us. One of their techs rode with me in my car for a good 15 minutes once to address some tire issues I had. <p>Any one of the three would do the cable upgrade for you I would think as you have an extended warranty, but it probably depends on the type of ex. warr. you have and what it covers. I remember reading something about someone being stranded after Ferman in Tarpon changed their cables and didn't do it correctly - I'd go to VV or TV. I wouldn't go in and just ask for the cable upgrade though - tell them you're getting a buzz in the shifter in 5th, and that there is a crunch in 2nd (mine was quite bad). If you just go in to ask for the upgrade they probably won't do it, as they have to log a reason for the repair. <br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You're a life-saver. I live in Tampa, and travel between Tampa, Oldsmar, and Palm Harbor all the time. I plan on picking up an R very soon and was NOT looking forward to finding which dealership was mod-friendly. My family has a close relationship with Ferman, but mostly the sales team, not the service team.<p>GREAT info on Tampa Volvo... they're the closest to my house also. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (Grendel)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Grendel</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My crunch was infrequent as well, but it happened often enough to warrant attention. They probably switched to the new cable system in mid to late 05 (completely guessing), so you might have the old system. There is a TNN your dealer should be able to pull, and it should indicate the vin range that applies to the old cables. If you have a crunch into 2nd, you probably either have the old cables, or need an adjustment. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>anyone know the TNN number of this?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>legbend</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You're a life-saver. I live in Tampa, and travel between Tampa, Oldsmar, and Palm Harbor all the time. I plan on picking up an R very soon and was NOT looking forward to finding which dealership was mod-friendly. My family has a close relationship with Ferman, but mostly the sales team, not the service team.<p>GREAT info on Tampa Volvo... they're the closest to my house also. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Welcome to the world of the R!<p>Rangeball makes a pretty good point - that it really is up to the regional reps to deny or accept warranty work on modded cars. But some dealers seem much more reluctant to deal with mods <I>at all</I>. My dealer was quite adamant when I asked them about springs - they wouldn't even touch them. You would think they would want the paid work. <p>Tampa Volvo seems a bit more realistic. This isn't to say that if you have them install a set of eibachs, and you later have a problem with the shocks or the 4C, that they will fix everything with no problems. But at least they will install them, something my dealer wouldn't do. My dealer almost implied that putting a set of springs on the car would void my entire warranty (which it doesn't), and I really don't want to deal with that hassle. I can't see the guys at Tampa Volvo giving you trouble if your ECU happened to go bad, after you installed a set of springs.
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (mike_c70)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mike_c70</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>anyone know the TNN number of this?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>TNN43-40-2004-03-03<br>Buzzing Noise from M66 Shifter, S60R/V70R <br>Some customers may complain of a "Buzzing" noise from the manual shift lever in S60R / V70R cars. The noise is most easily heard when accelerating at high engine RPM (3000 RPM and higher). Applying light pressure to the shifter by hand will make the noise disappear.<p>TNN43-47-2005-11-01<br>DATE: 11-01-2005<br>MODEL: Vehicles with 5 or 6 Speed Manual Transmissions<br>M. YEAR: 1999-2005<br>SUBJECT: Difficult to Engage 1st and/or Reverse Gear<br>This Tech Net Note supersedes the previous 43-47, dated 8/5/04. Please update your files.<br>This applies to all 1999 S/V/C 70 cars, as well as S40/V50/S60/V70 cars built before:<br>544 -053404 545 -048974 384 -425275 285 -459438<br>
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And it's a bunch stiffer and transmits more vibration. May not be someone's cuppa. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Evolve "Black" one supposedly doesn't trasmit as much vibration as the "Blue" one.
 

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so when i go to make a service appointment at Volvo of Tampa, should i say i'm having a buzzing sound in 5th gear and ask if it's covered under warranty? orlando to tampa is an hour or so away, and i don't want to have to pay for this buzzing fix. if i do i'll just live with it.
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TNN43-40-2004-03-03<br>Buzzing Noise from M66 Shifter, S60R/V70R <br>Some customers may complain of a "Buzzing" noise from the manual shift lever in S60R / V70R cars. The noise is most easily heard when accelerating at high engine RPM (3000 RPM and higher). Applying light pressure to the shifter by hand will make the noise disappear.<p>TNN43-47-2005-11-01<br>DATE: 11-01-2005<br>MODEL: Vehicles with 5 or 6 Speed Manual Transmissions<br>M. YEAR: 1999-2005<br>SUBJECT: Difficult to Engage 1st and/or Reverse Gear<br>This Tech Net Note supersedes the previous 43-47, dated 8/5/04. Please update your files.<br>This applies to all 1999 S/V/C 70 cars, as well as S40/V50/S60/V70 cars built before:<br>544 -053404 545 -048974 384 -425275 285 -459438</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>This doesn't address a clunk shifting into 2nd gear though. I never had a buzz in 5th. I'll ask my mechanic if I have the updated cables though.
 

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Re: Shifter cable upgrade and new engine mount (mike_c70)

While the TNN doesn't address the crunch into second, I think this is probably the cause. missaligned cables can cause gear crunch, and these new cables fixed the problem completely for me. Telling them your car buzzes to get the crunch fixed might be a little dirty, but if it fixes the problem without them having to tear your tranny apart, then it's worth it. The new mount might also have helped the situation as well, as my old mount was probably moving a bit.<p>One thing that still bugs me though, is the open gate in the shift pattern. I hate missing 5th because the shifter moves too far to the right. The new cables (and shift lever) didn't seem to deal with this problem at all. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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