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Hi All,<br> This afternoon I had completed the test drive with one 2006 S60 2.5T AWD with sport package. Overall I want to say it is perfect for us. Comparing with the feeling from our 2005 Passat GLX, the only concern is that I felt the steering wheel too loose with the low speed drive especial in the wide turn. I don't know whether it is the correct feeling or nor.<br>Also I saw there was one button with "W" button behind its 5-speed automatic shift. What's the function for this "W" button?<br>Since we have no any experience with Volvo S60 before, would you please kindly share me your comments with Volvo 2.5T AWD drive?<br>Your comments will be very important for us to decide whether we should go with 2006 S60 2.5T AWD or not.<br>Thanks in advance.<br>D.C.
 

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Re: Shall we go with this 2006 S60 2.5T AWD? (D.C.)

It is odd that you find the steering loose on the AWD S60, as we own a 2005 AWD and the steering is quite solid and heavy! The turning circle is a bit of a worry, especially in tight parking-lots but you get used to it after a while and it doesn't become too much of a bother. The AWD system is unbelievable in the wet, with extremely safe and predictable handling. My Dad drives a 2004 CLK 500, and even he agrees that the S60 trounces the CLK for wet weather predictability. <p>Build quality and reliabilty has been excellent so far, and the seats are the most comfortable of any car you will ever sit in! <br>The 'W' button is the 'winter' button used to increase grip in icey conditions by starting the car off in 3rd instead of 1st.<p>The AWD is a terrific car and you wont be dissapointed!
 

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Re: Shall we go with this 2006 S60 2.5T AWD? (D.C.)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>D.C.</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Comparing with the feeling from our 2005 Passat GLX, the only concern is that I felt the steering wheel too loose with the low speed drive especial in the wide turn.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think the steering is intentionally "light" at low speed to allow for easy parking, etc... it should "firm up" quite a bit at speed.
 

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Re: Shall we go with this 2006 S60 2.5T AWD? (volvoAWD)

Thanks so much for your experience with 2005 S60 AWD. <br>The car that we tested is 2006 S60 with sport package which has "Speed-Sensitive Steering" function. I know whether your 2005 S60 AWD had the same feature or not. This "Speed-Sensitive Steering" feature gives me quite solid steering and the extremely stable at high speeds, but it feels a little bit loose ( lose some torque steer) at low speed drive. That's my personal feel from this test drive.<br>Did you ever drive your 2005 S60 AWD through high-speed corners or through the mountain drive? How's your feeling?<br>By the way, did you face any angle gear and oil leak issue with your 2005 S60 AWD since I saw a few concerns or complaints about them?<br>Thanks again for your kindly comments and it will be much helpful for us to make the decision.
 

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Re: Shall we go with this 2006 S60 2.5T AWD? (Warpedcow)

That's exactly what I felt from this test drive. Since it is 2006 2.5T AWD with the sport package, the enhanced "Speed-Sensitive Steering" is too light without enough tug from its steering at low speed drive. Especially when I drove this car through one ramp with 20-25 miles speed, I totally lost the road feeling from this steering and don't know whether my turn on its steering wheel was too bigger or too smaller.<br>Yes, I agree with you it is "firm up" and has a more on-center feel when I drove on the highway with 60-70 miles speed.<br>Thanks so much for your comments.
 

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Re: Shall we go with this 2006 S60 2.5T AWD? (D.C.)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>D.C.</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you ever drive your 2005 S60 AWD through high-speed corners or through the mountain drive? How's your feeling?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hi D.C. I thoroughly tested the AWD through everything including; high-speed corners, mountain drives, handbrake turns <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> etc, and the car was extremely solid and safe. The car might not be hugely entertaining to drive, but that's not the point of the car as it's not a BMW! It grips extremely well, and when you do reach levels of adhesion the car begins to run wide with very predictable understeer, but you have to be going very fast to get to that point. I love the S60 because it is very comfortable, easy to drive, whilst also being quite willing to take a hard corner or two. It even looks pretty darn nice and distinctive if you spec it correctly too, a lot better than the new 3-series in my opinion! <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>D.C.</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">By the way, did you face any angle gear and oil leak issue with your 2005 S60 AWD since I saw a few concerns or complaints about them?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I saw one or two of these complaints on this board too, but I haven't experienced anything like this with the S60. My uncle also drives a 2002 V70 XC and my close friend's parents own a 2005 XC70 and none of them have experienced any of these issues.<p>I hope this helps in your decision. Be rest assured you are buying a very good car!
 

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Re: Shall we go with this 2006 S60 2.5T AWD? (volvoAWD)

Hi VolvoAWD,<br> You did the testing with the handbrake turns. Oh, man. It is pretty crazy. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> I don't dared to try it unless it is emergency.<br>Thank you so much to share me so detail experience to play this S60 AWD. Now I can get more understanding with this vehicle. Yes, it looks pretty classical and distinctive for us and that's why we like it so much than BWM 3-series'.<br>I felt more warm from your comments and it will be more helpful for us to make the final decision.<br>Thanks again.<br>Best regards<br>D.C.<br>
 

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Re: Shall we go with this 2006 S60 2.5T AWD? (D.C.)

DC, You probably already know this but I will mention it anyway. Many manufactures over-inflate the tyres to keep them from flat spotting during periods of transportation and storage. If the dealer did not reset the tyre pressures on the car that you drove - the handling characteristic's will be very different that expected. I had an experience similar to yours with several vehicles I tested recently. I now never assume the dealer has the vehicle set up correctly, and always take my own digital air gauge. Even if you do not ask the dealer to correct the pressure before you drive, you will at least know what to expect. Happy testing. ajm
 

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Re: Shall we go with this 2006 S60 2.5T AWD? (D.C.)

hey D.C. My wife and I went through the same comparison 2 years ago. We test drove the Passat GLX, BMW 325xi, Subaru Legacy, and finally decided on the S60 2.5T AWD. We've been extremely happy and never regretted our decision.<br>The Passat felt solid, but as corny as it may sound the killer for me was lack of rear folding seats <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> The salesman tried to explain it was due to the 4Motion design??? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>The 325xi was nice, but too expensive w/ options. Hell of drive though!<br>The Subie? Nice, but just average....not the level of interior refinement found in the S60.<p>All in all our testdrives were a mix of highway and suburban streets, on dry pavement, temps in the 70-80 degree range. Some twisties here and there, where you could really push the limit of traction and the AWD systems. <p>We just felt the S60 offered the best overall package for <U>us</U>. We've got about 32,000 miles on the car and aside from the warranty replacement of the trunk strut arm (twice), its been a trouble free experience. We get about 23 mpg around town (lots of stop and go in DC) and about 30 mpg on the highway. <br>Overall, best seats I've ever sat in. Especially for long highway cruising. Its a touring car, not a sports car and I'm fine with that. I love having the AWD in the snow/rain. Love that extra traction in the corners. But the susupension set up could be alittle firmer IMHO. Someday I'll have those IPD anti-sway bars and new springs <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I think to some degree the stock suspension plays a part in that feeling your getting with the steering. Maybe not? And as far as your other concern, I think you'll find most of the angle gear failures with AWD Volvos have been limited to R models. <p>Overall, we'd buy one again <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Best of luck!<p>
 

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Re: Shall we go with this 2006 S60 2.5T AWD? (Moe-Jiller)

Moe-Jiller, Good point. I think it could be a problem to cause this handling a little bit different since it is 2006 brand new car with 6 mileage only and I am not the dealer had set up its tire pressure properly for our test drive. I will pay more attention to it during our next visit to this car.<br>Thanks so much. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>D.C.
 

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Re: Shall we go with this 2006 S60 2.5T AWD? (flying uittos)

Good write up and great detail about the comparison. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> Really thanks for you to share us so nice experience with S60 2.5 AWD and I saw the configuration of your S60 is exactly the same as 2006 S60 AWD that we tested. <br>With your comments, we get more confidence to keep Volvo 2006 S60 2.5T AWD over Lexus 2007 E350 in our list. Also we will try to do the test drive for 2006 A4 2.0T 6-spd Auto Tip Quarttro recently for our final decision.<br>Best Regards<br>D.C.
 

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DRT,<br>Yes, the performance of S60 R AWD is really awesome, but the price is too too awesome for me and it is out of my budget too much. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>D.C.
 
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