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There've been a lot of rumors lately about Ford's consideration of a sale of its lagging Jaguar marque, possibly packaging it with Land Rover. Trend Tracker's Michael Wynn-Williams thinks selling off their premium marques is unwise and instead suggests selling Ford Credit or Volvo.<p>There's not much more description of the reasons in teh AutoWired newspiece we found, but it does list a link where you can download the full report.<p>more here...<br><A HREF="http://www.autowired.co.uk/news/article.aspx?storyid=16607" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autowired.co.uk/new...16607</A>
 

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They would be stupid to sell Volvo or Ford Credit <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> and keep Jaquar. Of course, a lot of what they've done in the past few years makes little or no financial sense. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Sell Volvo, Not Jag Says Trend Tracker Analyst ([email protected])

I don't know who this Michael Wynn-Williams is, but he is 6 different kinds of idiot.<br>NEVER trust a "White Paper" written by a Brit.<p>These are the same yo-yo's who killed Britains aircraft industry in the 60's because they thought it would be better to buy anti-aircraft missles form the US instead of investing in new fighters.<p>But I digress, Jag's problems have zero to do w/ labor costs. Moving production to the US wouldn't save Jag any money and kill what little cachet Jag still has.<br>Ford should probably try to dump Jag, but outside of the Koreans or Chinese I can't think of anyone willing to buy it.<br>Selling Ford Credit would result in some short term gain, but in the long run not be a good idea.<p>As for selling Volvo, Fords products are too intertwined now to be able to separate from Volvo. Plus, who is going to be a buyer?<br>Aside from Renault, which AB Volvo ran screaming from 15 yrs ago.
 

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Re: Sell Volvo, Not Jag Says Trend Tracker Analyst (VolvoMax)

Here's a newsflash for Mr Williams:<p><br>You should crawl back into whatever crevice you emerged from and keep your short-sighted and opinionated comments to yourself <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> ...better yet, go drink yourself silly <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> .................oh what am I saying??? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> you already DID that!!! Just before you wrote the article <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I just sent them the link to this thread...so they can see what ALL of us think about their uninformed opinions! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Sell Volvo, Not Jag Says Trend Tracker Analyst (VolvoMax)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvoMax</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>As for selling Volvo, Fords products are too intertwined now to be able to separate from Volvo. Plus, who is going to be a buyer?<br>Aside from Renault, which AB Volvo ran screaming from 15 yrs ago.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually, I was reading in Automotive News yesterday that Volvo is the <U>least</U> integrated of the companies they are considering selling.
 

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Re: Sell Volvo, Not Jag Says Trend Tracker Analyst (I Roll)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>I Roll</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Actually, I was reading in Automotive News yesterday that Volvo is the <U>least</U> integrated of the companies they are considering selling.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>From a management standpoint, maybe. Except that Volvo Finance is now just a subsidiary of Ford Motor Credit.<br>From a product standpoint, Volvo is quite intertwined. The P1 chassis for starters. The new I6 engine for the PAG group. Volvo supplies interior parts for Aston Martin, plus runs Astons safety program. <br>Any money Ford realizes from the sale of Volvo would be swallowed up trying to replace platforms, engines, etc.
 

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Re: Sell Volvo, Not Jag Says Trend Tracker Analyst (VolvoMax)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvoMax</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>From a management standpoint, maybe. Except that Volvo Finance is now just a subsidiary of Ford Motor Credit.<br>From a product standpoint, Volvo is quite intertwined. The P1 chassis for starters. The new I6 engine for the PAG group. Volvo supplies interior parts for Aston Martin, plus runs Astons safety program. <br>Any money Ford realizes from the sale of Volvo would be swallowed up trying to replace platforms, engines, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The article was basically a pro/con to keeping or selling either Jag, LR, Mazda, or Volvo. Here is what they said about Volvo:<p>"Three reasons why Ford should sell Volvo:<br>1) It is the only Ford brand worth decent money.<br>2) It is not yet tightly integrated into Ford Motor.<br>3) The euro/kroner cost basis is a steep climb.<p>Three reasons why Ford should keep Volvo:<br>1) A new product array should mean strong growth.<br>2) It delivers a steady $1 billion operating profit annually.<br>3) Volvo's safety center in Gothenburg, Sweeden, is the industry's best."
 

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Re: Sell Volvo, Not Jag Says Trend Tracker Analyst ([email protected])

I agree it is a silly idea. But I also would like to ask a question of MAX. Even with new and maybe sword blade cuts might have done in the labor package. Can you support your claim that LABOR COST as ZERO to do with Jags problems? Knowing as WE ALL do the past and present LABOR CLIMATE in BRITAIN I would be very curious as to your motivation and facts on that subject/statement? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW PLEASE no C&D or AUTOWEEK or MOTORTREND or R&T or CR and the like ect said............ That is a well known fact of garbage in garbage out type of Journalisum. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Nato740 at 9:12 PM 8-17-2006</i>
 

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Re: Sell Volvo, Not Jag Says Trend Tracker Analyst ([email protected])

I have a hard time believing Ford would sell Volvo since they have really been pushing the safety image in their ads lately. "We're working with engineers from Volvo blah blah blah..."
 

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Re: Sell Volvo, Not Jag Says Trend Tracker Analyst (Nato740)

Nato,<br>All car companies, esp European ones have high labor costs. Look at what the Germans pay for instance.<br>Jag's problems come down to product, plain and simple. They don't have an SUV, they don't have a viable mid level 5 series or E class competitor, their foray into the low end of the market was a $500 million dollar joke.<br>Basically, they have a high end sedan that is nothing special and a coupe/convertible.
 

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Re: Sell Volvo, Not Jag Says Trend Tracker Analyst (frankhoffy)

Ford Credit wouldn't be a bad thing to lose, if they can get a good enough price... <p>But I don't see Ford without a captive finance company...
 
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