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Except for the lower price tag and a trip to Sweden, does OSD have other benefits? For instance, is it possible to choose options, which are not available in the US builder like massage seats or soundproofed windows for the S60?
 

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No. In the past, but not now.
And there's no OSD for S60s since those are built in South Carolina.
Thank you! And it's a shame, I really wanted a more quiet interior.:)

I am not entirely sure about there not being OSD for the S60, however. While the name of the program would no longer make sense, when I reached out to Volvo's customer support 2-3 times in the past 2 months, they have consistently reassured me, that one may still order the S60 through the OSD program, get a trip to Sweden + the savings, and the only difference would be not picking up the car there, since the car (as you have mentioned) is being built in South Carolina. On one occasion they even suggested that they might be giving customers an additional day or two at the hotel in lieu of not being able to pick up the car at the factory but the customer service person wasn't sure about that one.
 

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I am not entirely sure about there not being OSD for the S60
Sorry; I misremembered/wasn't paying enough attention since we got a V60.
Sounds like details for the future are due next week.
 

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I haven't been to this site recently, but have done two OSD. One of the best decisions my wife and I have ever made!!!
 

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I just spoke with the dealer we are using to order our XC90 Recharge through the OSD program and he said that unfortunately Volvo has eliminated the MSRP discount for this year. They are giving an extra free hotel night, which is hardly an equivalent but I guess we shouldn't be shocked given the intensity of the car market right now.
 

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I just spoke with the dealer we are using to order our XC90 Recharge through the OSD program and he said that unfortunately Volvo has eliminated the MSRP discount for this year. They are giving an extra free hotel night, which is hardly an equivalent but I guess we shouldn't be shocked given the intensity of the car market right now.
Yeah... the extra hotel night is worth about $150-200, as opposed to previous $4-7k discount.
 

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Yeah... the extra hotel night is worth about $150-200, as opposed to previous $4-7k discount.
I know - major bummer. And now I'm re-thinking my entire order because of the "Inflation Reduction Act" which looks likely to pass. If so, it eliminates EV credits for non-US manufactured cars, which I believe knocks Volvos out of eligibility, and also sets income caps of $150k single and $300k adjusted gross to qualify for the credits (as well as an $80k limit on SUV price point). Sinema seems to be the only potential hold out right now, Manchin has committed to support. I don't know exactly when this would take effect - maybe orders placed before passage can sneak in under the old tax regime, but it has me re-thinking things. I'm so disappointed.
 

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One would expect those with pending orders who are getting 2023 Volvos at the 2022 OSD price along with a $500 bonus might now be appreciative.

On a side note, if as has been suggested on the related thread, the dealers are now getting an extra 7% commission on OSD orders that we might see some of that money coming back to customers through travel credits. This is something individual dealers did with the Mercedes Overseas Delivery Program to be competitive. Once allocated supply meets OSD demand which likely will fall due to the customer's loss of the 7% discount (which could be sooner than later now that chip issues are resolving, at least for Volvo) we may see dealers willing to split that extra 7% that has been shifted to them from the customers.
 

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One would expect those with pending orders who are getting 2023 Volvos at the 2022 OSD price along with a $500 bonus might now be appreciative.

On a side note, if as has been suggested on the related thread, the dealers are now getting an extra 7% commission on OSD orders that we might see some of that money coming back to customers through travel credits. This is something individual dealers did with the Mercedes Overseas Delivery Program to be competitive. Once allocated supply meets OSD demand which likely will fall due to the customer's loss of the 7% discount (which could be sooner than later now that chip issues are resolving, at least for Volvo) we may see dealers willing to split that extra 7% that has been shifted to them from the customers.
I'm paying the 2023 price for a 2023 car. I just happened to find a dealer with existing allocation who was able to place the order now after calling 26 different dealerships. Good news is that apparently folks who place orders before 2023 should still get the tax credit even if the new EV bill passes, but yeah, it is a bit of a bummer to miss out on the 7% MSRP discount.... it added up to a little over $5k, which isn't chump change. Still very excited about the car, but if the tax credit had been axed along with the MSRP discount, it would mean a final sale price nearly $13k more than originally anticipated.
 

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Ugh, after doing a little more research (i.e. reading the actual text of the draft Inflation Reduction Act, posts in this forum and various news articles), it turns out I was definitely wrong about getting the tax credit as long as the order is placed before 2023.

The draft specifically states (on pages 386-387) that for vehicles that will be placed into service after December 31, 2022 (which is basically inevitable with OSD given the shipping times) you have to have proof of a binding order before enactment of the bill in order to be grandfathered into the old tax credit regime and get the $7500 credit. Today, I received and signed a Volvo Overseas Delivery Order DocuSign from Volvo corporate, but it specifically says "This car order constitutes a binding contract between Volvo Car USA, LLC Overseas Delivery and the Buyer when confirmed in writing with an Order Confirmation from VCUSA. VCUSA is not bound by any terms and conditions in this car order prior to the issuing of an Order Confirmation. Any additional terms and conditions set out in the Order Confirmation shall take precedence over this car order."

So basically, if VCUSA doesn't provide an Order Confirmation before the Inflation Reduction Act is enacted, it is no dice on the tax credit for moi. It looks like enaction could happen as early as next week, with a Senate vote this weekend and the House reconvening next week, unless Sinema or some other Senator suddenly revokes support (unlikely), a Democratic Senator gets COVID and can't vote (slightly more likely), or Republicans seriously delay the reconciliation process with the requirement that the entire 700 pages be read aloud + unlimited proposals for adjustments to the Act (highly likely).

Anyone know how quickly VCUSA usually sends out an Order Confirmation and if there is anything one might be able to do to expedite that process?
 

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Anyone know how quickly VCUSA usually sends out an Order Confirmation and if there is anything one might be able to do to expedite that process?
I never got anything beyond the doc in the email entitled

You signed: "Volvo Overseas Delivery Order Document"

It doesn’t use quite the same wording but it does talk about the non refundable deposit and when payment must be made. One could hope that’s enough for the feds but there might be some interpretation risk.
 

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I never got anything beyond the doc in the email entitled

You signed: "Volvo Overseas Delivery Order Document"

It doesn’t use quite the same wording but it does talk about the non refundable deposit and when payment must be made. One could hope that’s enough for the feds but there might be some interpretation risk.
Same here (order placed 2/2022). There was never a separate confirmation written, email, or otherwise and I wondered about that in the order document as well. I ended up emailing Barbara to ask (not knowing she was about to retire) and she responded that my order was indeed in the system with that delivery date.

My guess is that you're fine for the tax rebate (as long as there aren't any changes to the transition plan in the bill), but I am not a CPA, or whatever.

Congrats on finding an allocation! What's your delivery date, if you don't mind my asking?
 

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Can you take delivery in 2022 if you cannot get a binding contract before the bill gets signed.
I am going to call the OSD guy at my dealership this morning to find out, but I don't think it is going to be possible. I asked this question of a different dealership that I was initially going to use for this order. They reached out to Volvo to see if they would ship my XC90 Recharge stateside in October but allow me to do my OSD trip in December. (I have no desire to drive the car in Europe - my travel itinerary is not conducive to it and, per Volvo, I wouldn't be able to charge my car anyway because it isn't going to be compatible with European charging stations). Volvo said no, they wouldn't ship the car stateside until I took the OSD trip (even though they had the ability to complete the build in October). Since my trip to Sweden is in early December (the plan is to hit the Xmas markets and go to Lapland for the aurora), this would result in a car delivery date stateside in January based on the 6-8 week shipping times.

I never got anything beyond the doc in the email entitled

You signed: "Volvo Overseas Delivery Order Document"

It doesn’t use quite the same wording but it does talk about the non refundable deposit and when payment must be made. One could hope that’s enough for the feds but there might be some interpretation risk.
Yes, I received this email as well, immediately after I signed the DocuSign (or EchoSign, to be technical). It attaches the executed document. The first two pages look promising - it shows an order date, an order number, the car specs, the fact that cancellation will result in a loss of the nonrefundable deposit. The problem is on page 3, where the fine print "Sale Conditions" begins. Section 1 of those conditions includes the problematic language that the order is only binding "when confirmed in writing with an Order Confirmation from VCUSA. VCUSA is not bound by any terms and conditions in this car order prior to the issuing of an Order Confirmation."

If VCUSA has stopped issuing those Order Confirmations (sounds like it has based on your post and some older posts in other threads), it is probably going to cause a tax headache for everyone in my position. Best case is that the OSD specialist at my dealership is somehow able to grab the attention of Volvo corporate on this matter and get them to recognize the importance of issuing the binding Order Confirmation, but idk how much VCUSA cares about the plight of their customers who are fighting to claim the tax credit before it disappears. The only other thing I can think of is to use an invoice for the car and receipt for my $3k deposit dated late July from my dealership and pray that it does the trick.

My guess is that you're fine for the tax rebate (as long as there aren't any changes to the transition plan in the bill), but I am not a CPA, or whatever.

Congrats on finding an allocation! What's your delivery date, if you don't mind my asking?
Re the tax credit: I'm not sure I'm fine yet - unless and until I can get that binding Order Confirmation verbiage, I'll be obsessively tracking the progress of this bill.

Re the allocation: Thanks! It required making a color-coded excel spreadsheet to track all the dealerships I called. Hopefully all that effort was not wasted with the tax credit now in limbo and MSRP discount gone.

Delivery date (in Sweden) is December 12.
 

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Can you take delivery in 2022 if you cannot get a binding contract before the bill gets signed.
For vehicles assembled outside the United States, you must have an order in with binding contract before the bill is signed into law (I.e. this week). After the bill passes, only the S60 Recharge will be eligible for the credit. All others, including the fully electric XC-40 are out of luck.

See this Electric article for more info.
 
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For vehicles assembled outside the United States, you must have an order in with binding contract before the bill is signed into law (I.e. this week). After the bill passes, only the S60 Recharge will be eligible for the credit. All others, including the fully electric XC-40 are out of luck.

See this Electric article for more info.
I think the new law only affect those who take delivery in 2023 right? For people who can get a car in 2022 the credits would still stand. But given this is the OSD section, chances are slim.
 

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I think the new law only affect those who take delivery in 2023 right? For people who can get a car in 2022 the credits would still stand. But given this is the OSD section, chances are slim.
I'm holding out a similar hope. As excited as I still am for the OSD, the $7500 would be incentive enough for me to just purchase an incoming vehicle at a local dealer. =/
 

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I think the new law only affect those who take delivery in 2023 right? For people who can get a car in 2022 the credits would still stand. But given this is the OSD section, chances are slim.
You are correct. However, if you are doing OSD right now, there is almost no chance the car will be delivered to you before Jan 1, 2023. That is the situation I'm finding myself in.
 
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