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So, I'm planning to get my suspension redone quite soon, and was hoping to get some opinions on which struts/shocks to get.<p>I think I'm leaning towards the Monroe as they are the cheapest, and I'd probably rather have ride comfort over performance. But, should I at least suggest something different?<p>Thanks for any opinions! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: (Bender)

Alright. I'll probably go with the Sachs then. I think Bilsteins are a bit far out of my budget at the moment... (And, as mentioned, would rather a smooth ride than <i>amazing</i> handling.)
 

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<A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Volvo-S80-S60-V70-Struts-Shocks-Mounts-Spring-Seats_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3a49c06d08QQitemZ250345450760QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories" TARGET="_blank">Wow, that's a good price!</A><p>Same price as IPD for the shocks, plus some (most likely scantech) whatnot. I already got the XC spring seats, so I won't need those, but I had no plans to replace the strut bearings and am still unsure as to if the IPD HD end links are worth my while...
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StarmanDXE</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Volvo-S80-S60-V70-Struts-Shocks-Mounts-Spring-Seats_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3a49c06d08QQitemZ250345450760QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories" TARGET="_blank">Wow, that's a good price!</A><p>Same price as IPD for the shocks, plus some (most likely scantech) whatnot. I already got the XC spring seats, so I won't need those, but I had no plans to replace the strut bearings and am still unsure as to if the IPD HD end links are worth my while...</TD></TR></TABLE><br>My front end began making noises intermittantly a few days ago..<p>At first i was like strut mounts/end. Then as i began thinking about it, the list keeps getting longer. <p>Could you take a picture of the xc mount for me?(so i can compare it to the $$$$$$$ipd piece)<p>The bad part is, iPd just had a sale on all of the parts they make which includes strut mounts, sway bars, endlinks, etc <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Then you have to get an alignment after the front end parts are put back together. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>wouldnt t5s have different dampers than the rest since they are lower?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Impulse922</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My front end began making noises intermittantly a few days ago..<p>At first i was like strut mounts/end. Then as i began thinking about it, the list keeps getting longer.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I asked the shop working on my car to look into my front end noises for me, and they said (from what they saw) it's most like control arm bushings. So, I'm expecting to do those and the swaybar end links. <p>Any chance anyone can chime in on the tie rods (inner/outer) as far as when to replace and symptoms of them going bad (and where they are exactly, anyway...)<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Impulse922</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could you take a picture of the xc mount for me?(so i can compare it to the $$$$$$$ipd piece)</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I would, but my car's in the shop, and they're in the trunk <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> But, people have been using them for a while now. They're probably on par with IPD's heavy duty ones. Got mine for (I think) $29 each from Darrell Waltrip <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Impulse922</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The bad part is, iPd just had a sale on all of the parts they make which includes strut mounts, sway bars, endlinks, etc <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Which strut mounts do they make? And, you plan to replace your sway bars? I'm going to leave mine, so I'm still not sure if I want to bother going with their heavy-duty end links... :-/<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Impulse922</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then you have to get an alignment after the front end parts are put back together. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>I know... I'm expecting the suspension to be another $1,000~$1,500 by the time I'm done...<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Impulse922</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wouldnt t5s have different dampers than the rest since they are lower?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Good point. Although, maybe it's just the springs are shorter, but they still use the same dampers???
 

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Re: Sachs vs Monroe (StarmanDXE)

*cough*KW*cough*.....they're cheap <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Sachs vs Monroe (stealthS60AWD)

<A HREF="http://www.aboveallmotorwerks.com/Products/Volvo-S60-%28HR%29-2WD-0300--KW-Suspension-Coilover-Kit---Variant-2__KW_15267007.aspx" TARGET="_blank">http://www.aboveallmotorwerks.....aspx</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Strange... I was just reading <A HREF="http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=20557&p=92828" TARGET="_blank">this thread</A> which mentions them!<p>I asked Darrell Waltrip for a price. He said he'd need some number from the plate in the engine compartment, but that they'd probably be something like $110 for the strut and $76 for the shock. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>But, now I'm looking at <A HREF="http://www.swedishautoparts.com/S60/Volvo-S60-suspension-front.html" TARGET="_blank">all of the parts of the strut</A> (and looked into the rear shock bits <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=122152" TARGET="_blank">in another thread</A>) and am starting to balk at the price of replacing it all! It's like $1k+ for just all of the parts! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> (not including springs)
 

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I'm sure you don't need to change EVERY single part, unless they are all broken/badly worn, which I highly doubt. <p>shocks and struts you will probably have to do, same with the front strut mounts. End links you could change while your down there as well.
 

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Yeah, well, if I had the time/tools/space, I'd pull it apart and check to see what seems worn. But, as is, I'm going to have to take the parts somewhere to get it done.<p>JRL had suggested replacing it all, which seems like a good idea at 100k+ miles. Definitely going to replace the upper spring seat bushing in the front, but what about the other big ticket items? The upper and lower spring seats, the upper strut mount, and the bump stop? Are they not likely to go bad?
 

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Well you can't really know for sure unless you take it apart and see what's what. my car has 159,000km (which is roughly 100,000 of your miles) and i had bilstein's on for a while. the hard ride started to get old, so I ordered OEM front struts and rear shocks. Just last week i put in new upper spring seats to tighten the front up a bit. The bearing in the strut mount was fine, bump stop was fine, just one of the spring seats was worn, so I decided to change both anyways. <p>I really doubt EVERYthing is busted. Sure it might be smart to change everything while the car is apart but you don't have to, especially if you feel it's starting to cost too much.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>miha11</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well you can't really know for sure unless you take it apart and see what's what. my car has 159,000km (which is roughly 100,000 of your miles) and i had bilstein's on for a while. the hard ride started to get old, so I ordered OEM front struts and rear shocks. Just last week i put in new upper spring seats to tighten the front up a bit. <B> The bearing in the strut mount was fine, bump stop was fine </B> , just one of the spring seats was worn, so I decided to change both anyways. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>good to know, been wondering on the life of these <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>StarmanDXE: Originally, i was planning on strut mounts /hd endlinks @ 70k, i am considering struts(sachs). Money is limited and college starts in mid August, so i have to git er' done.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>miha11</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just last week i put in new upper spring seats to tighten the front up a bit. The bearing in the strut mount was fine, bump stop was fine, just one of the spring seats was worn, so I decided to change both anyways.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Are you talking about the (metal?) spring seats (#2 and #4), or just that rubber bushing (#9)? If just the bushing needs to be replaced, that would be much better (as those are some of the most expensive bits).<p>Also, the upper strut mount (#10) is on the expensive side. Although, I wouldn't see that as being a wear item... Was it in your case?<p><A HREF="http://www.swedishautoparts.com/shop/catimages/top/Volvo-XC90-Front-Suspension.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://www.swedishautoparts.com/shop/catimages/top/thumbnails/Volvo-XC90-Front-Suspension.jpg" BORDER="0"></A> <p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>miha11</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really doubt EVERYthing is busted. Sure it might be smart to change everything while the car is apart but you don't have to, especially if you feel it's starting to cost too much.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yeah... One of these days I'll have my own house with a garage and a 2nd car so I can try and tackle this stuff on my own... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"><p>But, for now, I'll just have to rely on people like you who <i>have</i> done it themselves and can offer some advice! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>On that note, any chance you've got any comments with regards to the rear suspension? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.swedishautoparts.com/shop/catimages/top/volvo-V70-Rear-suspension-2001-2007.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://www.swedishautoparts.com/shop/catimages/top/thumbnails/volvo-V70-Rear-suspension-2001-2007.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p>And what about all of the bushings in the <i>rear</i>? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.swedishautoparts.com/shop/catimages/top/Volvo-C70-2wd-Rear-Sus.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://www.swedishautoparts.com/shop/catimages/top/thumbnails/Volvo-C70-2wd-Rear-Sus.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p>Thanks for your help, BTW! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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1st <p>Replace Spring seats and Struts / Shocks <p>2nd <p>done <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Only replace the rest of the stuff if its actually worn you would be suprised what is and what looks brand new. <p>if you decided to replace your lower control arms since the bushings are bad , replace the whole arm since there is no savings in just replacing the bushings.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Chilled Man</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1st <p>Replace Spring seats and Struts / Shocks <p>2nd <p>done <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Only replace the rest of the stuff if its actually worn you would be suprised what is and what looks brand new.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>So, just the upper spring seat bushings in the front, and whatever might be broken in the rear? Is it right that you access the rear shocks through the trunk? I remember reading that at one point... Maybe I can see if any of those parts are broken...<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Chilled Man</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you decided to replace your lower control arms since the bushings are bad , replace the whole arm since there is no savings in just replacing the bushings. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>I remembered hearing that and, up until now, I was looking at it purely in terms of price of parts. But, now that you said that, I am realizing that the labor to replace the bushings would most definitely be more than just whole new control arms, eh? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Let's just saw if you don't have the right tools (ie. a press) its a pita to take out those bushings. If you plan on doing it yourself, it's not that hard of a job.<p><A HREF="http://sdbhost.com/testsites/VolvoS60/S60RearSprings.html" TARGET="_blank">http://sdbhost.com/testsites/V....html</A><p>that's for the rears, the fronts are even easier.
 

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Thanks for that link. That doesn't look so bad. I could probably go home for a weekend and tackle those rear shocks myself. Maybe do the shocks first and check to see what (if anything) else would need to be replaced. (Probably all of the bushings within the suspension). Although, any idea where that big part #9 from the rear suspension is? It doesn't seem to be in the picture at all... (And I can't even figure out what the use for it is...)<p><br>And, are you saying that the front struts are easier to do than the rear shocks???
 
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