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I received some bad news today regarding the S80R. Volvo had been working on a 400hp AWD version of the S80, to be dubbed the S80R most likely. The car would have used an AWD system that was different from the Haldex AWD or the previous Viscous Coupling, though we're not sure whether that was due to packaging or power levels. Haldex shouldn't have had a problem though with the power levels, so we can assume it was packaging. <P>I believe the motor would have been a version of the current 6cyl.<P>Unfortunately, I can now share this info with you only because I have been told that the project has been shelved. The costs on the car, and its developement were getting out of hand, so for now.....no go. <P>Perhaps though, if the S60R (confirmed, and possibly in dealers by this time next year) and the V70R (not fully confirmed yet) are successful enough, then Volvo could still go ahead and produce the S80R.
 

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That stinks. Sounds like it might have been a contender for the M5 or maybe even the S8 and 740i.<P>I wonder how much was too much?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by anony00gt:<BR><B>Are they offering AWD in the S60R and/or the V70R?<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yes, the Haldex system.<P><P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by [email protected]:<BR><B>I received some bad news today regarding the S80R. Volvo had been working on a 400hp AWD version of the S80, to be dubbed the S80R most likely. The car would have used an AWD system that was different from the Haldex AWD or the previous Viscous Coupling, though we're not sure whether that was due to packaging or power levels. Haldex shouldn't have had a problem though with the power levels, so we can assume it was packaging. <P>I believe the motor would have been a version of the current 6cyl.<P>Unfortunately, I can now share this info with you only because I have been told that the project has been shelved. The costs on the car, and its developement were getting out of hand, so for now.....no go. <P>Perhaps though, if the S60R (confirmed, and possibly in dealers by this time next year) and the V70R (not fully confirmed yet) are successful enough, then Volvo could still go ahead and produce the S80R.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Pity. I think PAG has headed Jaguar and Volvo in the luxury arena and left the pure performance segment to languish. This means Volvo and Jag wind up competing against each other and leaves BMW to pick up the pieces for the pure performance-driven customer.<P>I personally got my S60 T5 without the leather and sunroof 1) to get the cost down, 2) I couldn't fit into the car with the sunroof, and 3) Leather burns after it's been sitting in the desert sun. (Then the morons go and put VINYL on the T5's base seats!!! What tomfool IDIOT thought of THAT one?!? Ever been to Mojave in July?! AAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!)<P>I think there's a market out there for the guy-who-wants-Mustang-performance-but-wants-something-better-than-a-Mustang-but-can't-afford-the-full-luxo-sedan-with-all-the-schmaltz. Sadly, Volvo is ignoring that segment but could meet it nicely with a 'light' S60 T5 that gets rid of weight wherever possible and boosts the performance parameters of the car.<P>I think a C60 2-door with about 280 hp on tap would fit the bill nicely, especially if you can get the sticker around $30k. Sure, offer leather and the sunroof for the fools that can afford it, but give me the comfy cloth seats like my wife's S80 and no sunroof--the car will be lighter and therefore perform better. (Leather weighs more than cloth and there's no weight of the sunroof actuator and mechanisms.)<P>My $.02<P>But I really think they're missing the performance-minded segment when they price the car out of sight for that type of customer.<P>
 

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No, I agree with you (except both Jag and Volvo plan to expand their respective R brands). The lower end of that sport market though is what you are talking about, and I see what you mean. Ever drive or sit in a Jetta Wolfsburg or a GTI with cloth. That's VW's sport cloth and they use it very widely in Europe. It is quite durable (I put 287K miles on a Jetta VR6 with the stuff with little wear), and feels much higher quality than the typical mousefur used by most manufacturers today in cloth applications. I don't see why Volvo couldn't do something like that, or even something like Audi's more Satin sport cloth.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by [email protected]:<BR><B>...project has been shelved. The costs on the car, and its developement were getting out of hand, so for now.....no go.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/frown.gif"><P>*Weeping, weeping...*<P><BR>[This message has been edited by 11110000 (edited 12-19-2001).]<p>[This message has been edited by 11110000 (edited 12-19-2001).]
 
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