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I am looking at the PPC ECU Upgrade at EuroSportTuning, it all looks very good but I am left wondering why Volvo didn’t have a performance tuned ecu in the car in the first place? Anyone know?
 

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Re: s80 t6 ecu mods (SquareDanceSteve)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SquareDanceSteve</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am looking at the PPC ECU Upgrade at EuroSportTuning, it all looks very good but I am left wondering why Volvo didn’t have a performance tuned ecu in the car in the first place? Anyone know?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Here is the short answer --> The corporate slogan "Volvo for Life" doesnt really fit with "performance tuned ECU" goal. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: s80 t6 ecu mods (bschurr)

<br>How does twin turbo fit with "Volvo for life" ? silly sweeds<p>any issues i should know about with the performance ecu?<p>50 additional hp seems pretty high, do you know the accuracy of the measurement?<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by SquareDanceSteve at 9:04 PM 6-25-2006</i>
 

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Re: s80 t6 ecu mods (SquareDanceSteve)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SquareDanceSteve</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>How does twin turbo fit with "Volvo for life" ? silly sweeds<p>any issues i should know about with the performance ecu?<p>50 additional hp seems pretty high, do you know the accuracy of the measurement?<p><i>Modified by SquareDanceSteve at 9:04 PM 6-25-2006</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Pretty accurate. Do both downpipes and exhaust, and you could be within a breath of 400hp at the crank.
 

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Re: s80 t6 ecu mods (SquareDanceSteve)

That was my question to Scott. I remember readin one of the car rags when Volvo starting making real performance front wheel drive sedans. One of the statements from Volvo was they could make an engine 300HP.....but they couldn't find an axle that could handle the torque. Im still waiting to hear from Scott (IPD) to reply. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I dont know about the HP accuracy but IPD claims that thier ECU upgrade will bring a t6 to a 5.9 in a 0-60 which I believe would beat a 1979 Lambo Countach or a 1989 Ferrari Testarossa <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>The s80 is plenty fast, but I would honestly be quite scared of trying to make it produce 400hp <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: s80 t6 ecu mods (SquareDanceSteve)

It is very easy to squeeze additional HP out of a forced induction car with just an ECU tune. (NA - Normally Aspirated cars are a different story). Along with the tune, go with a DP & exhaust and some suspension upgrades to keep the power to the road - you will not be disappointed!<br>Good luck <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Im hoping Volvo has beefed up their CV joints to meet the demand of greater torque. After all they are getting ready to put out a V-8 FWD...... This article was written when they started making performance 850s. Most car people would are excited about this ECU upgrade!!! Im driving a 340hp hemi 300C until my T6 arrives.....Its a sweet thing to get on a highway at highway speed without any effort. Horsepower gets you out of trouble is you use it properly. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I would worry about the (inherrently bad) 4 speed tranny in the T6 first <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Maybe the first thing to get is a tranny cooler.....then consider the upgrade <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>keith718</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe the first thing to get is a tranny cooler.....then consider the upgrade <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>no, i would actualy go for the ECU upgrade, then do the tranny cooler. in the case of the ECU you'll have the juice when you want it to go; and a whole in your pocket <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> but, at least sometime to show for it. the tranny cooler is really for afterward if you ealize you really are putting a long sustained load on your tranny; and then you want to put a whole in your pocket <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> anyway after a year and a half of beating on it, i'm not a propoent of the 4 speed trannys are bad crowd.<p>so anyway, i have the TME/IPD one. it was the best bang for the buck. i've heard RICA is pretty good. then there is BSR (PPC ECU Upgrade at EuroSportTuning); i don't know much about it's performance, but it allows you to reload your stock program. unforunately it only works with the factory program for some reason. i suppose they afraid of people comparing their program with another vendors, maybe i don't know. i can't think of any reason not to allow it.
 

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Ipd has a combo set (ECU flash, Exhaust, K& N air filter) for a complete upgrade which I will probaly do with next years bonus <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> . I already put that bug in my wifes ear <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> . Really Im wondering why Volvo could not find a good five speed tranny from another carmaker....<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> Oh well "it is what it is" (2006 new buzz phrase).<br>What I will do when the car is delivered is install a K&N air filter. <br>Question: With thosed suspension mods....does your car ride harder?? <p>Keith
 

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Re: s80 t6 ecu mods (bschurr)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bschurr</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is very easy to squeeze additional HP out of a forced induction car with just an ECU tune. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Rather, it's easy to re-map the turbo to deliver more boost. The issue, however, is whether the boost map respects the turbo's flow characteristics -- particularly with regard to the surge line and island of peak efficiency.<p>Folks considering such an upgrade would be wise to ask the following of the what are the revised boost limits, and at precisely at what rpms? After making a few calculations, I'd plot the results on the stock boost map of the turbo that's fitted to your car. This would give some indication whether the revised boost settings will flirt with the danger of low rpm surge (very hard on the turbo) or lead to termal inefficiency at high rpm (not good for the cylinder head or piston crowns).<p>I generally agree with the previous post concerning Volvo's probable motives for its ECU settings (max life, vs. max performance). That said, some ECU mods can deliver moderate performance gains with a marginal impact on longevity. My recommendation is to do a little math to confirm that an ECU manufacturer (or retailer) isn't going over the line so they can use "big" numbers in their advertising.<p>I could go on at length about boost settings having a greater effect at high rpm. But suffice it to say that there's little that can be realistically done with an ECU to substantially increase low-rpm torque unless one plans to swap turbos or alter a/r ratios.<p>My 2 cents.<p>Paul
 

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Re: s80 t6 ecu mods (Nebor)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nebor</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pretty accurate. Do both downpipes and exhaust, and you could be within a breath of 400hp at the crank.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>WRONG! <p>Do NOT put a downpipe on if you are going with the BSR PPC. Their software does not yet incorporate the use of a DP, and the quicker spooling that a DP allows will cause boost spikes and detonation. Stay away from the DP until BSR releases an upgrade for such additions. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: s80 t6 ecu mods (phuz)

I was planning to skip on the down pipes... I don’t think it’s worth the trouble.<p>I don’t drive like a maniac so I don’t think I need to worry about damaging my engines life, my tranny was freshly rebuilt by the dealer before I purchased the car and a very expensive receipt and warranty was included with my car’s manual. <p>It’s nice to have the bragging rights and the horse power when I need it.<p>My dad's xc70 turbo’s battery died and it reset his computer causing the drivers side mirror to drop into a positive feedback loop disabling all of the lock, mirror and window controls (an in proper mirror was installed that happen to be missing the position sensors caused the feedback loop).<p>So the EST ecu computer appeals to me in that respect that it won’t be a big deal if the battery dies.<br>
 
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