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Hi Guys,<p>I am looking at a CPO S80, mainly an 08 or early 09. <p>I will be coming out of an 07 Honda Accord with 62,000 miles. What I am wondering is how the reliability of the S80. <p>I owned an 99 S70 that was somewhat of a nightmare. It did have over 100K miles, so some of the maintenance was expected.<p>Also, are the v6 engines still belt driven?<p>Thanks<br>GC
 

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SI6 is chain driven.<p>Current S80 has been very reliable for the most part. My 07 has 32,000 miles. Only isue was creaking subframe bushings. They were part of a bad batch of bushings. <br>Main difference between 08 and 09 S80's is factory fitted Bluetooth.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvoMax</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SI6 is chain driven.<p>Current S80 has been very reliable for the most part. My 07 has 32,000 miles. Only isue was creaking subframe bushings. They were part of a bad batch of bushings. <br>Main difference between 08 and 09 S80's is factory fitted Bluetooth.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>My '08 S80 T6 has 21K on the clock and it has been bulletproof. I also have the "chirping" bushings which I have not bothered to have replaced but now that the weather is warmer and I leave my window down while driving the chirps are again annoying me.
 

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Re: S80 Reliability (gs1397)

It's a great car. But it's not going to have the reliability of an Accord...<p>Then again, the driving experience will be night and day. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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07 S80. 20K Miles. No issues whatsoever.<p>Lease expiring in a month. I am getting another 07 S80 soon.
 

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Hey Thanks for all the responses guys. I test drove an 07 3.2 and an 07 V8 w/Awd. I have to say that the V8 was fantastic. It just felt a lot more planted and solid than the 3.2. Not to say the 3.2 was in anyway bad. It wasn't. It was really good also.<p>So my question to you guys is, how much more maintenance could I expect to have to deal with if I chose a V8 AWD over the 3.2/T6?<p>Thanks again, guys.
 

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Is the T6 Chain driven too? If so I stand corrected. I was told that my 2009 S80 T6 has a timing belt that will need to be replaced at 105K mi.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gs1397</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Thanks for all the responses guys. I test drove an 07 3.2 and an 07 V8 w/Awd. I have to say that the V8 was fantastic. It just felt a lot more planted and solid than the 3.2. Not to say the 3.2 was in anyway bad. It wasn't. It was really good also.<p>So my question to you guys is, how much more maintenance could I expect to have to deal with if I chose a V8 AWD over the 3.2/T6?<p>Thanks again, guys. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Two more cylinders, two more spark plugs, more oil, tighter spaces that make maintenance harder to do, etc. etc. A bigger engine almost always means higher maintenance bills.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Freeworld</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Two more cylinders, two more spark plugs, more oil, tighter spaces that make maintenance harder to do, etc. etc. A bigger engine almost always means higher maintenance bills.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Plus, who knows how the Haldex system will hold up after a few years of that V8 torque?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Freeworld</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Two more cylinders, two more spark plugs, more oil, tighter spaces that make maintenance harder to do, etc. etc. A bigger engine almost always means higher maintenance bills.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>OTOH, the V8 will lead a less stressful life since it doesn't have to be wound so high to deliver power.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvoMax</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>OTOH, the V8 will lead a less stressful life since it doesn't have to be wound so high to deliver power.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, but it's so much fun to wind it up regardless. For the sound alone if nothing else... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Hi Guys,<p>Thanks for all the responses. I also wondered something else the sales guy said; he indicated that all three S80 models run on regular gas; I would have thought that at least the T6 and V8 would need Premium.<p>Just curious.<p>Thanks<p>GC
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gs1397</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi Guys,<p>Thanks for all the responses. I also wondered something else the sales guy said; he indicated that all three S80 models run on regular gas; I would have thought that at least the T6 and V8 would need Premium.<p>Just curious.<p>Thanks<p>GC</TD></TR></TABLE><p>My dealer says the same thing because they're trying to sell you a car. They will run on regular gas, but at a performance penalty. If you check the manual, you need run hi-test (premium) to get the best performance and fuel economy from the engine. If you run regular gas, you get less horsepower and lower fuel economy. Most cars with high compression engines recommend running premium gas. I just read an article in Car and Driver where they were comparing the BMW 328i, Audi S4, Infiniti G37S, and Acura TSX -- all recommended using premium gas.
 

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I have a 2009. I have been trying to determine a difference between Premium and Regular fuel. I cannot tell a difference, and I do not know if it is just me, but, I actually get better gas mileage with regular. I read in the manual that Premium will yield better performance, but, I have not been able to experience a difference between regular and premium.
 

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Whether a car will run on regular gas is certainly a valid question, and the answer for most new cars is -- yes. The engine management systems today are designed to manage the different spark characteristics. As for performance and mileage, sure, your average Toyota Camry will also get better performance and mileage on premium, but it's otherwise not "recommended" by Toyota because it's unnecessary. If you're looking for performance, knock yourself out and buy premium. You'll have the great knowledge of knowing that you can accelerate faster from that stop light than the guy in the S80 next to you <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Now I'll get off my soapbox and tell you: I buy premium <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I'm not even sure why given my understanding of the issue. But it just feels good to do so in a premium car...
 

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LOL...I hear you!!! In all honesty, I am alternating every three tanks between Premium and Regular. I want to be sure I am giving the ECU time to adjust to the different octane ratings. If at some point I can tell that there is an improvement with Premium, I will switch to that exclusively. Many Premium gasolines have added detergents over their Regular counterparts, and that will certainly help keep the engine clean. My jury is still out as to which makes my S80 T6 happier. I think most of the vehicles that my S80 competes with are quicker anyhow, so I do not think the fuel is going to help too much there anyhow. One thing is for sure, if you feel better buying Premium, then you should do so. There is certainly nothing wrong with first class <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">.
 

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I've experimented with regular and premium gas at varying gas stations (local stations as well as Shell, Exxon, etc.), and I've found that Premium at Shell stations is much better than Regular at local stations. <p>If I fill with Regular at a local station, I do get a bit of roughness in the higher rev's, and the acceleration feels a little "off". The engine doesn't really knock or produce a ping, but it just feels like its not running as smooth as possible. And I get around 17.9 MPG average according to the trip computer. <p>Fill up with Premium at a local station, the engine smoothly goes through the rev's, and I get upper 18's MPG (sometimes lower 19's). <p>Fill up with Regular at a Shell station - the engine seems to run a bit poorly compared to the premium at the local station, and gas mileage seems to hover near the mid to high 18's.<p>But Shell Premium - whoa. I fill up with that exclusively now, and I get high 20's/low 21's MPG, and the engine hums along incredibly smoothly. I know there can be a price difference of up to 40 cents a gallon between a local station's regular and Shell's premium, but over a 18 gallon tank, that's less than $8 a refill - which isn't that bad, considering you get better mileage, and the engine performs much better for me. <p>I'm just surprised that I get a better mileage with Shell premium over other gas brands/types.<p><br>Oh - and as far as my testing. Filled up one tank with the new type of gas, ran it almost dry, filled up a second time, reset the MPG meter to zero. Did this for all tests. And the driving conditions were exactly the same - a daily commute with about 20 minutes of drive time on the interstate with cruise on 65. So the tests were pretty consistent.
 
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