[ninjamunky]

I recently gave up my '91 Jetta for a '99 S70 and realized when I started driving it that the low beam output is absolutely atrocious. I've seen HID kits and projectors. I was hoping to find maybe a euro spec headlight lens or something. Is there any way to improve the light output on the low beams? <IMG SRC="http://media.firevortex.net/icons/custom/green/fv-green-dunno.gif" BORDER="0">

 

[64pvolvo1800]

Re: S70 Headlight Upgrades? (ninjamunky)

2003-4 C70 Jewels headlights from the dealer are very nice and drop right in place. I got my jewels with corners to match AND the XC style grill for $651

 

[JRL]

Re: S70 Headlight Upgrades? (ninjamunky)

Short of E codes (which there are no more in the US) go with the 03-04 C70 lights.<br>Not cheap but you will have 3 times the light output (and they look 500% better)<br>I have them on one of my cars and it was night into day, literally!<br><B>E CODES:</B><br>(C70 lights look about the same)<br><IMG SRC="http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww329/JRL1194/ECodespartduex-1.jpg" BORDER="0">

 

[ninjamunky]

FV-QR

Not that I'm sold on the aesthetics, but anyone try these yet?<p><IMG SRC="http://www.ipdusa.com/uploads/images_skus/14361.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>They're off <A HREF="http://www.ipdusa.com/version.asp?strPageHistory=category&numSearchStartRecord=0&strParents=128,371&P_ID=4861&CAT_ID=371&V_ID=13143" TARGET="_blank">IPD</A>.

 

[andyb5]

if im not mistaken the only difference between the jewels and stock is the clear glass, which i have linked. so the stock glass simply unclips once you remove the headlight (very easy, three 10 mil bolts and a harness they lift right out)<p><A HREF="http://www.vparts.se/sv/artiklar/volvo/v70-97-00/framlyktor-reservglas-3/stylingglas-svc70-forarsidan.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vparts.se/sv/artikl....html</A><p>if im wrong hopefully JRL will correct me so we both know<br>also IPD is awesome, very good stuff<p>

 

[ninjamunky]

At the very least, and quite obviously, the beam pattern will be clearer. The only question that remains is if the reflective materials are different. Either way, some good ideas being thrown out here.

 

[Chilled Man]

Re: (andyb5)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>andyb5</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if im not mistaken the only difference between the jewels and stock is the clear glass, which i have linked. so the stock glass simply unclips once you remove the headlight (very easy, three 10 mil bolts and a harness they lift right out)<p><A HREF="http://www.vparts.se/sv/artiklar/volvo/v70-97-00/framlyktor-reservglas-3/stylingglas-svc70-forarsidan.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vparts.se/sv/artikl....html</A><p>if im wrong hopefully JRL will correct me so we both know<br>also IPD is awesome, very good stuff<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>uh no. <p>If you were to do that your light would be eveywhere but on the road the lenses are used to direct the light in the correct direction with combination of the housings also. <p>If you look at both the jewels and the stockers theres a huge difference in the housing .

 

[Chilled Man]

Re: FV-QR (ninjamunky)

<IMG SRC="http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii298/R410a/160.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii298/R410a/C70013.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii298/R410a/carlislepics016.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii298/R410a/carlislepics009.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>

 

[BEJinFbk]

Re: (Chilled Man)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Chilled Man</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>uh no. <p>If you were to do that your light would be eveywhere but on the road the lenses are used to direct the light in the correct direction with combination of the housings also. <p>If you look at both the jewels and the stockers theres a huge difference in the housing . </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Chilled Man speaks with much correctness. The Jewels are all or nuthin'.<br>The reflectors in the housing point the light, the clear glass just keeps the bugs out.<br>With stock, fluted lenses, the reflectors just get all the light going the right way<br>and the flutes in the glass do all the work aiming the photons.<p>I went with the poor man's "DAMN! These stock DOT headlights SUCK!" option.<br>FCP has the eCode glass that replaces the DOT stuff using the stock reflectors and housings.<br>About $130 a pair, if memory serves. Then stepped up to Silver Stars.<br><A HREF="https://www.fcpgroton.com/product-exec/product_id/11372/nm/Volvo_V70_Headlight_Lens_Kit_Left_E_Code_/category_id/21" TARGET="_blank">https://www.fcpgroton.com/prod...id/21</A><p>They aren't HID's in projectors, but it was a big help, and <I>waaaaay</I> cheaper! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

 

[Papa_Kirlo]

Re: (BEJinFbk)

Here is my 2 cents: <p><b>EDIT: I'm referring to old style headlights (98-00) here</b><p> Ecodes and DOT headlights have identical reflectors. I bought 2 sets on OEM ecodes from European eBays and second set had broken housing. I took few pics when I was swapping it with my headlights and to my amazement the reflectors were identical (part's numbers were the same as well).<br> I just remember someone said that reflectors are different I thought so. I never made a post about it , but it just came to mind while I was reading this.<br> So if you want to keep stock profile and have a decent output, go for eCode lenses. Don't forget to apply protection film on it <br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Papa_Kirlo at 8:28 AM 9-4-2009</i>

 

[JRL]

Re: (Papa_Kirlo)

That's not the best idea, the lights pattern will be all worng.<br>Brighter, yes but you WILL blind people.<br>As for the E codes looking like the C70 lights, yes, almost exact, but the light PATTERN is 100% different with the E codes which have the Euro cut off low beam pattern. (good).<br>Both are a 100% improvement not to mention they look great<br>The reflectors<I> are </I>different, you just see it by just looking at it

 

[Papa_Kirlo]

Re: (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's not the best idea, the lights pattern will be all worng.<br>Brighter, yes but you WILL blind people.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not sure what you referring to.<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>The reflectors<I> are </I>different, you just see it by just looking at it</TD></TR></TABLE><p> I was referring to reflectors in 98 - 00 headlights. they are the same. Obviously reflectors are different in "clear" headlights (C70 03+) I will add year to my OP.<p>

 

[BEJinFbk]

Re: (Papa_Kirlo)

For Clarification:<p>There are 4 different OEM headlight options that will fit 70 series cars:<p><B>Fluted Glass—USA-DOT spec<br>Fluted Glass—European E-Code Spec</B><p>As stated by Papa Kirlo, these share the same reflector/housing assembly.<br>The fluted glass determines the throw pattern of these headlights and as JRL <br>has pointed out CANNOT be used with clear lenses! They become light bombs.<p>The stock USA-DOT configuration is very weak . Many have swapped the <br>E-Code lenses in and upgraded the lamps to higher output aftermarkets like <br>SilverStars or PIAA’s for a relatively cheap upgrade. HID’s behind fluted<br>E-code glass makes an even bigger difference, ( but be careful of cheapo HID’s ).<p><B>Clear Glass “Jewels” - USA-DOT spec<br>Clear Glass “Jewels” - E-Code spec</B><p>“Jewel” type headlights with clear, non fluted glass appeared on later model<br>Gen 1 C70’s to improve the car’s appearance and headlight performance.<p>In the case of “Jewels”, the <I>glass</I> is the same and the housings are different between USA-DOT and E-Codes. <br>The lenses are just clear protective glass and the reflector/housings assemblies control the light throw.<p>Hope this makes it clear as mud for a Friday Morning! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

 

[ninjamunky]

FV-QR

That's a great summary. Thanks, BEJ.

 

[andyb5]

wheres a good place to buy the jewels from?

 

[JRL]

Re: (andyb5)

C70 lights? Anyone who sells OEM Volvo parts including the Volvo dealer<br>(Remember you will need the clear corner lamps or it wil be F-UUUUGGGLLY!)<p><B>Euro </B>jewels?<br>I don't think anyone has any in the states anymore, I think I got the last set two years ago

 

[BEJinFbk]

Re: (JRL)

Euro junk yards, mebbe? Calling Big Will! Come in, Big Will!<br>Of course, since we're all just using the "E-Code" parts for "Off Road" use anyhow... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">

 

[Big Will]

Re: (BEJinFbk)

I have the E-code jewel C70 lights on my wagon and they are wonderful just like JRL says. I lucked out and bought a used set from Erie years ago that they didn't know were E-codes but I noticed the 5w drivers lights in the housings on the internet pictures.<p>HAHA sorry guys - I've tried for a year to find a set of jewel headlamps over here to sell but most cars have front end damage and believe it or not, there are Volvo enthusiasts here who put these on the S/V/C70s from the first generation. ; )<p>If anyone is really interested, I can certainly send a set from a dealer here but the exchange rate is not strong at the moment and shipping will not be cheap.<p>Also, there is a small difference in the S/V70 housing on the 98-00 E-code headlamps. They have a 5w driver's lamp in the housings that the DOT spec ones do not have. Also some of them are motorized which can be a cool thing.

 

[Chilled Man]

Actually some of the US Spec Headlights have the 5w drivers light ... <p>I have two cars that do right now.

 

[Big Will]

They are probably headlights that made their way into the country from abroad ; )