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It's a one page "Preview" on page 72 for those who have it.<p>A pretty decen article but they were concerned about the boost.<p>"The biggest complaint is that the heavy boost builds smoothly but blows off with a rush, leaving the engine gasping. Volvo says it's still working to smooth the R's Superman/Clark Kent transitions."<p>They are the first ones to say that. Did they have a pre-production model? Hopefully they will get this fixed for the 2004 MYs.<p>An odd thing about the specs is that the 0-60 time is a range between 5.4 - 7.2 seconds (5.6 - 7.4 for the V70R). I've never seen a range for the new Rs so I can guess this may be due to the transmission offerings.<p>It's not up on Car and Driver's web site yet but hopefully it will be soon.<p>RJ
 

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Re: S60R/V70R review in Feb issue of Car and Driver (B518T)

Automobile Magazine has a more extensive review about both cars...<p>Yannis
 

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Re: S60R/V70R review in Feb issue of Car and Driver (GrecianVolvo)

There was a review on a sat channel called Motors TV.<br>I think the tests itself are French oriented but the magazine is in the English language.<br>They had the S60R, red with 18" wheels, on the Paul Ricard test circuit and were impressed but since this magazine tests a lot of cars also on this circuit and they are familiar with it they took the car on the road.<br>They found the circuit to be to smooth for objective testing where the car would perform well anyway.<br>The normal road was in the hills with some different road conditions.<br>Again there was a remark about how bad the brakes performed, this is the second review mentioning this but they said that it could be a flaw for this particular car.<br>On the road they were negative about the 4C system also.<br>They kept a steep pace through the curvy roads.<br>With bumpy road conditions the sport and advanced settings were to hard.<br>The comfort setting was soft, I didn't hear anything about to soft overall like in some other reviews, but the electronics acted up from time to time by killing suspension movements in a very hard way while being very soft on other occasions.<br>Sometimes the car suddenly bumped real hard.<br>This made it difficult to get a good feel for the car.<br>The 6 speed tranny was very good with good chosen ratio's and a good throw and the engine felt real strong also but the turbo responded rather fast and wild which made the backroad drive not as pleasant as they hoped it would be...<p>Just passing on <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
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Re: S60R/V70R review in Feb issue of Car and Driver (Johann)

AutoWeek, January 13, 2003, page 18-19, also did some behind the wheel time at the Paul Ricard Circuit.<br>Unfortunately, rain and thick fog limited their driving time to just four laps in one afternoon and a half hour on the public roads.<p>Wes Raynal suggested 1) "turbo lag was brief" 2) suspension and ride were "mega-stable." He thought the AWD/Four C allowed "tons of grip on the track", but there was a tendancy toward understeer in the wet.<br>Off the track, "firm but not too harsh" Raynal noted that "even in Advanced Sport, there's no crashing over bumps" <p>He's reporting: Sticker prices as follows: $36,825 S60R $38,325 V70R<br> US arrival: May 1st.<br> US Numbers: 2000 S60Rs 500 V70Rs<p>Griff
 

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Re: S60R/V70R review in Feb issue of Car and Driver (Griff_33)

No thoughts regarding AutoWeek since I haven't seen it yet, however I did read the "Car and Driver" article. Seems very positive, but reserved. Where the reviewer mentions the "biggest complaint is that the heavy boost builds smoothly but blows off with a rush, leaving the engine gasping." This comment in conjuction with the listed 0-60 time of 5.4-7.2 for the S60R and 5.6-7.4 for the V70R makes me think that the test car must have been the GT and not a manual. The manual probably gets to 60 at the low end of the time range. I know that with my 850R there was an override in the chip that would back-off of the max HP (at high rpm) after 5 seconds so as to limit the stress on the transmission. It was an automatic and could account for why this test provided similar feeling at the high-end of the rpm range. No reason this would happen in a standard transmisson past the 5200 mark. However, some of the other reviewers have complained about electrical problems with the 4C system so perhaps there are still some bugs to work-out. Any thoughts?
 

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Re: S60R/V70R review in Feb issue of Car and Driver (24Hours)

5-speed automatic was used in the Car and DRiver review<p>"On a brief romp over mountain roads and around the turns of Circuit Pal Ricard in southern France, a V70R with the five-speed automatic proved the new Volvo has plenty of protein.)<p>Tranny they used was the 6-speed manual in the Automobile article. <p>"Flimsy might best describe the action of the six-speed manual gearbox (a five speed automatic is also offered.)<p>RJ
 

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Re: S60R/V70R review in Feb issue of Car and Driver (B518T)

Good catch. What is meant by "flimsy?" Short-throw for a MT should make it feel tighter.
 

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Re: S60R/V70R review in Feb issue of Car and Driver (24Hours)

Can you even put a short-throw in the spaceball shifter? Doesn't look possible but then I haven't seen one up close.<p>RJ
 
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