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So i know about the DSTC trick. (push it 5 times and the anti skid goes off, no DSTC fun). But i was wondering if there was a "track mode" liek the m3 for the r?
 

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Thread stealer.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> ...when I picked up my R, I was told that the guy that picked his R up last week already wrecked it! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"><br>It was told that he turned off the DSTC, took it out to run it pretty hard and smacked it up. Can disabling this feature really cause that much of a difference? Poor driving skills, I say.
 

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In one word "yes", i have had the dstc kick loads of times on wet roundabouts, etc, feel the car start to go, then stops the slide dead<p>but remeber, all these dstc system etc, i great, but u cant allways stop the laws of physics!
 

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Re: S60r tricks (p0cket penguins)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>p0cket penguins</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But i was wondering if there was a "track mode" liek the m3 for the r?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's called the advanced button. It will give a bit more timing response.
 

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Re: S60r tricks (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>It's called the advanced button. It will give a bit more timing response.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The advanced button does not affect timing. It does affect the amount the throttle will open in relation to the pedal travel for a quicker response. It will also affect shifting performance in GT's.
 

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Re: S60r tricks (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The advanced button does not affect timing. It does affect the amount the throttle will open in relation to the pedal travel for a quicker response. It will also affect shifting performance in GT's. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Regardless, it feels faster to me.
 

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DTSC <b>can</b> save your hide. It can make a poor driver look better than he/she is, and a good driver look great, but it will never break the laws of Physics. A pro will know what to do without it, but let's face it 99.9% of us aren't pros. Without DTSC (PSM or whatever) the 911 would still be the handful that it was during its first 30 or so years on our streets. It's still a different drive than...well, basically everything on the market, but it's 100% tamer than the original 901.<p>-Eric
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Eric_H</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thread stealer.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> ...when I picked up my R, I was told that the guy that picked his R up last week already wrecked it! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"><br>It was told that he turned off the DSTC, took it out to run it pretty hard and smacked it up. Can disabling this feature really cause that much of a difference? Poor driving skills, I say.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>He probably understeered into a tree.
 

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Re: S60r tricks (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The advanced button does not affect timing. It does affect the amount the throttle will open in relation to the pedal travel for a quicker response. It will also affect shifting performance in GT's. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Incorrect.... if you push the advanced button and watch things via OBD, you'll see the timing change. You'll also hear a change in engine note, but RPM will stay the same. In addition, the AP to throttle mapping will speed up (remember it's drive-by-wire)<p>
 

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Re: S60r tricks (needsdecaf)

[The advanced button does not affect timing.]<p>Uhhh.. yeah it does... You don't need any kind of measurement tools for that one. The butt-dyno should tell you all you need to know about that (at least on my MT 05). Gas it under "comfort" or "sport" mode. Then, try the same thing under advanced. At ANY level of pedal pressure all the way up to full throttle, the car will be MUCH more responsive in the 2000-4000 range under advanced mode. This isn't about the car "reacting" as if you had pushed the pedal down farther (like the tricks we used to play with the TPV our 1989-92 5.0 Mustangs to make the automatic tranny think you were pushing the gas harder than you were) this is modifying various attributes to get quite a bit more power.
 

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Re: S60r tricks (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The advanced button does not affect timing. It does affect the amount the throttle will open in relation to the pedal travel for a quicker response. It will also affect shifting performance in GT's. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>This is almost the exact same function as Sport mode (M Engine dynamics control) on the M3.
 

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Re: S60r tricks (Sue Esponte)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sue Esponte</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DTSC <b>can</b> save your hide. It can make a poor driver look better than he/she is, and a good driver look great, but it will never break the laws of Physics. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>and so is AWD... it can makes a poor driver to corner fast without ending in tears...but to be faster than him...you need to psuh the system, like the 4C..you have to think in a different way and voila. DSTC will never make a car faster so to make a driver look better?!?!?!, well at least not on the circuit.
 

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Re: S60r tricks (JimLill)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLill</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> You'll also hear a change in engine note, but RPM will stay the same. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I really hear it with my Evolve cat back - the note change
 

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Re: S60r tricks (DNeuwir)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DNeuwir</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[The advanced button does not affect timing.]<p>Uhhh.. yeah it does... You don't need any kind of measurement tools for that one. The butt-dyno should tell you all you need to know about that (at least on my MT 05). Gas it under "comfort" or "sport" mode. Then, try the same thing under advanced. At ANY level of pedal pressure all the way up to full throttle, the car will be MUCH more responsive in the 2000-4000 range under advanced mode. This isn't about the car "reacting" as if you had pushed the pedal down farther (like the tricks we used to play with the TPV our 1989-92 5.0 Mustangs to make the automatic tranny think you were pushing the gas harder than you were) this is modifying various attributes to get quite a bit more power.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>agree, i can feel it is faster with my butt dyno, really shifts, very cool car<p>dave
 

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Re: S60r tricks (JimLill)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLill</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Incorrect.... if you push the advanced button and watch things via OBD, you'll see the timing change. You'll also hear a change in engine note, but RPM will stay the same. In addition, the AP to throttle mapping will speed up (remember it's drive-by-wire)<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Huh, live and learn. I had never heard that it changed the timing. The manual mentions nothing about this either.<p>From the butt dyno, it is pulling harder, but to be honest the GT neuters it to the point where I can't normally tell if it's just more prominent throttle or not. Besides, don't often go to WOT in advanced anyhow...roads too rough around here. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0">)
 
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