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I've been pondering what type of car would be a cheapish and fun sleeper IF I can get the funds together sometime.<p>On my Google searches of top Sleeper cars I ended up at one on AskMen.com and low and behold this was one if their Sleeper picks:<p><IMG SRC="http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/971/s60rsleeper.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: S60R dubbed "Sleeper" by AskMen.com (stealthS60AWD)

Too bad thats not an R in the picture
 

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Email them back and tell them its 155mph, not 148 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Nice writeup, though!
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>phuz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Email them back and tell them its 155mph, not 148 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Should we also point out that early model GT shoppers should beware of stoplight shootouts with old men in Avalons and Camrys? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sue Esponte</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Should we also point out that early model GT shoppers should beware of stoplight shootouts with old men in Avalons and Camrys? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>lol, RAGE!
 

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I'm kind of Jacking my own....thread but here is the BEST Sleeper list I have seen so far. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>(2003 Mercury Maruader)<p>(Early 1990s Ford Taurus SHO)<p>1994-1996 Cadillac Fleetwood<p>1994-1999 Cadillac Concours<p>2000-2005 Cadillac DeVille DTS<p>1993-2002 Cadillac Eldorado Touring Coupe<p>----------------------------------------<p>1994-1996 Buick Roadmaster (LT1 Corvette Engine <A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-W-LT1-CORVETTE-ENGINE-LIKE-IMPALA-SS-LIKE-NEW-LOOK_W0QQitemZ170344222864QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item27a94e9090&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1308" TARGET="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...A1308</A>)<p>1997-2005 Buick Park Avenue Ultra<p>1995-1999 Buick Riviera Supercharged<p>1997-2004 Buick Regal GS<p>----------------------------------------<p>1995-1999 Oldsmobile Aurora<p>1996-1999 Oldsmobile LSS Supercharged<p>1992-1993 Oldsmobile Touring Sedan<p>----------------------------------------<p>1992-1999 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi<p>2000-2003 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi<p>2004-2005 Pontiac Bonneville GXP<p>1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP<p>1993-2002 Pontiac Firebird Formula<p>----------------------------------------<p>1994-1996 Chevrolet Caprice/Caprice Classic<p>1994-1996 Chevrolet Impala SS<p>2004-2005 Chevrolet Impala SS<p>
 

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Audi s4 b5 (2000-2002) has always been my favorite sleeper. Twin turbo 2.7 v6 with 250 hp from the factory, quattro of course. The aftermarket options are much better than volvo offerings, there are tons of s4's with >400awhp and a few with 5-600+ awhp running gt 25/28's. I have always wanted one, they are getting very affordable to buy, maintenance is a bitch though.<p>Of course the s60R is a pretty good sleeper too...
 

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Some of the cars in your list ain't "sleepers" in my book:<p>2003 Mercury Maruader<br>Early 1990s Ford Taurus SHO<br>1995-1999 Buick Riviera Supercharged<br>1995-1999 Oldsmobile Aurora<br>2004-2005 Pontiac Bonneville GXP<br>1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP<br>1993-2002 Pontiac Firebird Formula<br>1994-1996 Chevrolet Impala SS (these are the ones with a 350 under the hood right?)
 

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Re: S60R dubbed "Sleeper" by AskMen.com (stealthS60AWD)

Hmmm -- if AskMen.com thinks the SR is a sleeper, does that make the VR a "super sleeper"? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>craina</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Audi s4 b5 (2000-2002) has always been my favorite sleeper. Twin turbo 2.7 v6 with 250 hp from the factory, quattro of course. The aftermarket options are much better than volvo offerings, there are tons of s4's with >400awhp and a few with 5-600+ awhp running gt 25/28's. I have always wanted one, they are getting very affordable to buy, maintenance is a bitch though.<p>Of course the s60R is a pretty good sleeper too...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>To me, an S4 is not a sleeper, because most know what an S4 is, and that it's supposed to be fast. Just like an M3. <p>The R is a sleeper because most have never heard of it, it's a "volvo", and it looks like any other S60 to the untrained eye <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I have a hard time accepting any car that doubles as a police cruiser as a sleeper.<br>Maybe the cops will ignore you but the rest of the folks on the highway certainly won't. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SteveP</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmmm -- if AskMen.com thinks the SR is a sleeper, does that make the VR a "super sleeper"? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, it makes it a hearse.<p>-Eric
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>S60R1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some of the cars in your list ain't "sleepers" in my book:<p>2003 Mercury Maruader<br>Early 1990s Ford Taurus SHO<br>1995-1999 Buick Riviera Supercharged<br>1995-1999 Oldsmobile Aurora<br>2004-2005 Pontiac Bonneville GXP<br>1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP<br>1993-2002 Pontiac Firebird Formula<br>1994-1996 Chevrolet Impala SS (these are the ones with a 350 under the hood right?)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, some of them really aren't like the GTP, GXP, and Firebird....but the rest are Granny Cars with Supercharged 3800 Series II V6s, and in the case of the Impala SS and Roadmaster Limited 5.8L V8 LT1 Corvette engines.<p>They definitely aren't in the same class as a S60R as a Sleeper but if you were some Ricer at a stop light next to a 1994 Buick Roadmaster and it starts taking off with some Corvette power...that's the type of sleeper they are <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">.<p>I kinda fell in love with the Roadmaster now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3998715&postid=50916991)
 

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Re: (stealthS60AWD)

Sleepers are definately fun. You can blow the doors off an unsuspecting victim, enjoy the priceless look on their face, and fly under the law's radar.
 

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My old S60R got me a speeding ticket, but I have never been bothered at all in either of my V70Rs. I think that (at least in black), the S60R looks like a boy-racer car that will get you tickets, hence: not a sleeper.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>e1618978</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My old S60R got me a speeding ticket, but I have never been bothered at all in either of my V70Rs. I think that (at least in black), the S60R looks like a boy-racer car that will get you tickets, hence: not a sleeper.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Eh, relatively speaking I would still say the S60R is a sleeper. No huge air-scoops, wings, etc. Still follows many design cues of other volvos (which is a great thing). <p>I have an acquaintance with a V70R who got a ticket for speeding as well. No car is safe! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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yea the sport body kit doesnt help with teh cops. For the most part its the power that gets me in trouble with the laws...
 

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Like GM's supercharged "granny" cars, Volvo's own hi-po "granny" cars--the very conservatively styled S80 V8 and 1st/2nd gen T6 models--deserve an honorable mention as true-to-form sleepers especially considering their performance in such a seemingly ungainly large package, very subdued styling and their popularity amongst more mature persons--the very antithesis of the boy-racer crowd.<p>A lot of retards will diss many a fast "granny" car insisting that if it doesn't look fast at all it's not a sleeper. But that's the whole fricken' point behind a sleeper--it's surprisingly fast yet it sure as poo doesn't look like it.<p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I think the baseline needs to be upped. Every car (ok, not your basic kia) that is sold today comes with ridiculous power for what it is. There are more 300+hp daily drivers than any of us can shake a stick at.<p>Let me at that new Taurus.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>badams1897</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CTS-V ultimate sleeper car.. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>And yea.... prrrrr
 
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