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I got a 2006 S40 2.4i loaner while the dealer repairs a small dent on my new R and it has an excellent turning radius (compared to the S60 / R). How is this possible? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> The S40 is a narrower car. You would think than in 6 years since introduction, Volvo could engineer a solution to the turning radius of the S60 / R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (BrunoS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BrunoS</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got a 2006 S40 2.4i loaner while the dealer repairs a small dent on my new R and it has an excellent turning radius (compared to the S60 / R). How is this possible? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> The S40 is a narrower car. You would think than in 6 years since introduction, Volvo could engineer a solution to the turning radius of the S60 / R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>6 years???<br>It would likely require MAJOR changes (engine placement, , etc). Not gonna happen.<br>I'm so used to it that it is a non-issue.<p>
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (BrunoS)

Brembos. Wheel offset.<p>Why do you think the R models have a much larger turning radius than any other 60/70 of the same model year?
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (StaggRLee)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StaggRLee</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Brembos. Wheel offset.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Don't forget the wider rims/tires.<p>And to the original poster, both T5 and R blocks are 2.5 liter I5's but the they are not THE SAME as your thread title suggests. The S40 block is a bit shorter due to some better packaging of accessory drives, etc.. And besides, you had a 2.4i.<p>
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (BrunoS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BrunoS</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The S40 is a narrower car. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That alone would give you a smaller turning radius. <p>
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (needsdecaf)

The S60/V70 is based on the the same P2 platform as the S80. The front end dimensions and geometry were set to accomodate the inline-6. WIDE!
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (JimLill)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLill</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The S60/V70 is based on the the same P2 platform as the S80. The front end dimensions and geometry were set to accomodate the inline-6. WIDE!</TD></TR></TABLE><br>P1 PLATFORM
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (JRL)

<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_S80" TARGET="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_S80</A>
 

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I like the wide turning circle. Gives me an excuse to not take the car to shopping centres when the wife wants to go shopping. This way I dont not get those horrible dents down the side of my car from the idiots that dont give a damn about their car or somebody elses.
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">P1 PLATFORM</TD></TR></TABLE><br>BZZZT<p>R-O-N-G<p>S60/V70/XC90/S80 are based on the P2 chassis<p>P1/C1 is the S40/V50/new C series
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (SilverS60RNYC)

wider is better. besides, the s40 2.4i is a toy, im driving one right now myself... when i get the R back it will have even worse turning due to spacers and springs
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (BrunoS)

The S60 is wider and has a combination of wider tires and smaller wheel wells than the S40.<br>The nice thing about the S40 is that it does have bigger wheel wells, this allows more turn angle than the S60 can achieve.<br>Probably because the S40 wasn't meant to hold a big engine sideways.<br>The S40's 5 cyl engine is different dimensionally from the S60's.
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (VolvoMax)

Yes, the S40/V50 I5 is a different block, among other accessory configuration changes ... more compact in it's fit transversely.
 

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Re: S40 with same transversal 5-cyl engine than R has excellent turning radius... (BrunoS)

The steering on the S40/V50 has a slightly higher ratio of 15.3:1 as opposed to the S60's 16.4:1. However, the bigger difference is the R's lock-to-lock limit of 2.5 turns. The standard S60's is 3.0 turns btw. The S40/V50 is 2.9.<p>This means that the S40 has 25% more steering range than the R. A lot! (*)<p>Add to this versus the S40/V50: the R's 1" wider front track, 7.5mm smaller front ET wheel offset, 4" longer wheelbase and wider tires. It's quite a difference.<p>Tom.<p>(*) showing my math - 2.9 turns at 15.3:1, 0.1895. 2.5 turns at 16.4:1, 0.1524. 0.0371 difference in 0.1524 is 25%.
 

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MY07 S60 2.5T AWD = 38.7 ft Turning Radius (which is pretty bad)<p>MY07 S60 R = 42.7 ft Turning Radius (and weight of 3715 lbs* is like driving a cruise ship)<p>*The weight of the R increased for 2007 and the GT-model mileage decreased from 18 mpg city to 17 mpg. Way to go Volvo!
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BrunoS</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">*The weight of the R increased for 2007 and the GT-model mileage decreased from 18 mpg city to 17 mpg.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Is that due to the V8? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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