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Here's a dumb one for you. Let's say 5 or 10 years down the road I for some odd reason still have this money pit. Is there a transmission that would mate up to the R engine, allowing it (the engine)to be turned the correct direction and turn it to RWD? This car in RWD minus 500 pounds would be pretty fun. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> (I'm probably just retarded)
 

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Re: RWD R? (kmagnuss)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kmagnuss</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's a dumb one for you. Let's say 5 or 10 years down the road I for some odd reason still have this money pit. Is there a transmission that would mate up to the R engine, allowing it (the engine)to be turned the correct direction and turn it to RWD? This car in RWD minus 500 pounds would be pretty fun. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> (I'm probably just retarded)</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"><p>But seriously, thats rough. You could just have the angle gear setup, and not have any power to the front wheels. Then have the Haldex send all of it to the back.<p>That would probably be easier than figuring out <p>~steering rack<br>~engine mounts<br>~trans software etc...<br>~custom driveshaft<br>~Custom trans mounting plate<p>Not to mention cutting the firewall, or radiator support to mount the engine front to back. I don't think we have enough space.<br>etc....
 

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Re: RWD R? (kmagnuss)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kmagnuss</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's a dumb one for you. Let's say 5 or 10 years down the road I for some odd reason still have this money pit. Is there a transmission that would mate up to the R engine, allowing it (the engine)to be turned the correct direction and turn it to RWD? This car in RWD minus 500 pounds would be pretty fun. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> (I'm probably just retarded)</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>If you have money you can do anything to the car, <p>I was actually thinking you could take a tranny from a 240 or try and mate something like a Tremec 6-speed to it<p>But the real question is would the engine fit?<p>Chris
 

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Re: RWD R? (kmagnuss)

The transmission is called the M90. It was in 960s in Europe. They bolt right up to a whiteblock Volvo engine.<p>Or just build an adapter plate for one.<p>There like a handful of guys on Turbobricks, with 242s, 960s and even a 780 with T5s and T6s.<p>The obvious choice would be a 960 of some sort, to benefit from the independent rear suspesnion.<p>'The POI' on Turbobricks has a 960 Wagon, with the original auto transmission attached to paddle shifters, with a T6 under the hood.<p>It's nickname is 'the bumpercooler'<p><IMG SRC="http://i.pbase.com/o6/25/257025/1/85129668.enT9XJDs.DSC03756.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://k43.pbase.com/o6/25/257025/1/85129665.ajB4NyVK.163_57z_20_e_view.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://k41.pbase.com/o4/25/257025/1/57854216.IMG_2897Medium.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>
 

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Re: RWD R? (chinaonnitrous1)

5 years down the road these cars will either be worth a fortune (highly unlikely) or worthless (my moneys on this). This would lead me to believe that we will be seing some heavily modoified R's on the roads and certainly on the track. V6 or small block V8 - modified transmission tunnel for a tricked out tranny, 9" rear end - (are they still doing "detroit lockers"?) and a tubbed rear! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Wiring is not my forte though.... Thats why I like the old stuff!
 

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Re: RWD R? (58ford)

Or you could go <I>This</I> guy's route!<p><A HREF="http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=182147" TARGET="_blank">http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/...82147</A><p>I know. It's not Swedish...Sorry... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I know that the B5 S4 guys can convert their cars to RWD with a little welding. I don't think anyone on SS is as ballsy as the audi guys.<p><A HREF="http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232095" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audizine.com/forum/...32095</A><p>1000th post!
 

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Re: RWD R? (58ford)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>58ford</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">5 years down the road these cars will either be worth a fortune (highly unlikely) or worthless (my moneys on this). This would lead me to believe that we will be seing some heavily modoified R's on the roads and certainly on the track. V6 or small block V8 - modified transmission tunnel for a tricked out tranny, 9" rear end - (are they still doing "detroit lockers"?) and a tubbed rear! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Wiring is not my forte though.... Thats why I like the old stuff!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>hahahaha, not going to happen.....
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>cmurphy2266</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know that the B5 S4 guys can convert their cars to RWD with a little welding. I don't think anyone on SS is as ballsy as the audi guys.<p><A HREF="http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232095" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audizine.com/forum/...32095</A><p>1000th post!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Their engine faces the other way, so for them it's just a matter of dumping the center differential and getting a longer driveshaft.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> I think I might just go after another Rx7 when my warranty is done.
 

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IMHO when it comes to the title of any Volvo that's truly worthy of wearing an "R" badge, I'd have to nominate the twin-turbo LS-1 powered 740 wagon known as the 'Volvette':<p><IMG SRC="http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x42/dugstrickler/DSC_0115.gif" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x42/dugstrickler/Spring2007VolvetteCarlisle033.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBu6STlhh8Q" TARGET="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBu6STlhh8Q</A><br><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CI1PzhJ2fY" TARGET="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CI1PzhJ2fY</A><p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: RWD R? (kmagnuss)

Contact Rhys Millen Racing... They did an RWD conversion for a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. I believe the car was used in F&F Tokio drift. <p>Basically the diff needs to be replaced with a shaft holding the final drive gear. The shaft needs to extend to the angle gear. This way a stronger connection to the angle gear could be made in place of the spline ring. Since all power will go through the angle gear I guess the angle gear needs a bracket to the engine also at the passenger side. If the angle gear is beefy enough the only thing which needs to go is the Haldex clutch, can be replaced with a straight shaft. <p>Voila, RWD. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Theres a RWD C30 <br><A HREF="http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/05/this-needed-to-happen-rwd-volvo-c30" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/0...o-c30</A>/<p>Take the subframe from a 960, cut it up and modify it to bolt into an S60
 

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sweet ls1 swap.
 

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Re: RWD R? (kmagnuss)

why rwd only <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>R awd can create understeer, neutral and oversteer when needed (oversteer when entering corner, neutral in the middle and oversteer to get fast out of corner) obviously you needed to push it into oversteer aggressive when entering but this is still the fasted way around a track. rwd sounds maybe fun but isn't fast.<br>You never saw races in the past with audi quatro's and afterwards they got penalized because they won them all? AWD has double the cornering-grip than fwd/rwd and together with braking power makes you win.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JARMO</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You never saw races in the past with audi quatro's and afterwards they got penalized because they won them all? AWD has double the cornering-grip than fwd/rwd and together with braking power makes you win.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>AWD only improves acceleration traction. That is getting as much power down to the ground when the throttle is opened w/o wheelspin. When cruising at a steady speed or coasting AWD is no better than FWD or RWD.<p>That said, AWD does nothing...as in *abso-freaking-lutely nothing at all*...for improving maximum cornering traction (ultimately it's up to the tires for this--not AWD) or braking traction (again it's up to the tires plus the brake rotors and pads for this--not AWD).<p>What's more, the added weight of the required AWD components may actually hurt cornering and braking functions. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dextrobrick</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>That said, AWD does nothing...as in *abso-freaking-lutely nothing at all*...for improving maximum cornering traction (ultimately it's up to the tires for this--not AWD) or braking traction (again it's up to the tires plus the brake rotors and pads for this--not AWD).<p>What's more, the added weight of the required AWD components may actually hurt cornering and braking functions. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>please ... let's start a nOOb Forum <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>pls go walk away with your S80t6, it's slower than 850 t5 ... your car is LOW pressure!!!!! AND you can't compare S80 suspension with s60 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"><br>The car's (S80, S60) are too different to compare.<br>And... you obvious haven't driven an R before (making out of your responce) .... <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dextrobrick</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AWD only improves acceleration traction. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>how poor of a driver are you then, to my knowledge if you get it right down the floor rwd is faster.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JARMO at 10:53 PM 5-30-2009</i>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JARMO</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>please ... let's start a nOOb Forum <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>pls go walk away with your S80t6, it's slower than 850 t5 ... your car is LOW pressure!!!!! AND you can't compare S80 suspension with s60 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"><br>The car's (S80, S60) are too different to compare.<br>And... you obvious haven't driven an R before (making out of your responce) .... <p><br>how poor of a driver are you then, to my knowledge if you get it right down the floor rwd is faster.<p><i>Modified by JARMO at 10:53 PM 5-30-2009</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Interesting response, I'd say.<p>That said, if I were a n00b then I'd have to ask...are all R-owners complete d-bags like yourself or are you the sole exception? <p>In any case GFY. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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You could conceivably build an RWD R and it would be a sight to behold. I for one would love to see an R smoke the rear tires. However, what I would like to see more is an entire AWD set-up from a tuned WRX or EVO fitted to our drive line. <p>I can dream.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dextrobrick</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Interesting response, I'd say.<p>That said, if I were a n00b then I'd have to ask...are all R-owners complete d-bags like yourself or are you the sole exception? <p>In any case GFY. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, you can't expect a serious repsonse when you say that AWD doesn't help cornering <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">? I'm not sure if you've ever driven an AWD, or RWD car, but trust me, a proper car, has power going to the rear wheels so you don't understeer in the corners, FWD is just easier, doesn't mean it's better.
 

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From my understanding the weak link of R corning is the 4C system, correct me if i am wrong i probably qualify for the noob forum, but if your heart it set on a RWD R it'd probably be easier to get the cheapest s60 you can find and gut it to the bones make the conversions and rebuild it with R styling or a bare bones track car. keep the R for a daily driver thats what makes the 4C nice there when you want it and not when you don't.
 
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