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I appologize for the newbie questions but I'm trying to find new rims for my R and it really is a jungle out there! I have looked through the archives and JimLil's offset tutorial (and wheel offset calculator) but I'm still really confused!!<br>I have also reached out to the three biggest rim wholesalers in Sweden and nobody can give me any good advice on which 18" rims will fit the car!<p>My question to you is:<br>1. Can i go with 18x8 as well as 18x7,5?<br>2. What is the max and min offset threshold? (both with and without spacers)<p>Would a wheel with 8x18 5/108 ET40 B73.1 fit the caR without spacers?<br><A HREF="http://www.bythjul.com/?page=129&item=24043" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bythjul.com/?page=129&item=24043</A><br>If spacers are needed what is the maximum I can go without jeapordizing the handling? <br>Thanks in advance!<p><br>
 

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Re: Rims for the R (johanjaw)

sorry, I tried to find the answer, but I'm not sure if it will answer your questions.<p>heres just some stuff I found.<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=32853" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=32853</A><br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=99511" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=99511</A><br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=89265" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=89265</A><p>hopefully, someone else can answer your questions.
 

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Re: Rims for the R (johanjaw)

In terms of offset you would not want anything lower than ET37. With regard to clearance it depends on the design of the wheel. Lower offset typically implies more clearance but the design also plays a role. It doesn't look like the linked wheel would fit.
 

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Re: Rims for the R (m3nt0s)

So ET 40 would work with 5mm spacers all around?<br>
 

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Re: Rims for the R (johanjaw)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>johanjaw</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So ET 40 would work with 5mm spacers all around?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>There is no way to know that, Johan, without measuring the x-factor size. With the R, you *cannot* simply buy a wheel off the shelf, even if it has the correct offset, diameter, width, bolt-pattern, hub-bore, etc...<p>The Brembo calipers on the R stick out so far, that all of those measurements are futile, if the spoke design doesn't allow for enough clearance for the caliper itself, so it's a size issue *and* a design issue. This is the main reason for the jungle you've found <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>For example, any wheel that would fit an AWD S60 would have the correct hub-bore, bolt-patter, offset (potentially), diameter and width, but most of those wheels simply will not fit on the S60R because the brakes stick out too far.
 

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Re: Rims for the R (JoeLvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>There is no way to know that, Johan, without measuring the x-factor size. With the R, you *cannot* simply buy a wheel off the shelf, even if it has the correct offset, diameter, width, bolt-pattern, hub-bore, etc...<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>When you say "x factor size" I take it you are refering to the calipers? <br>What would be the minimum fit for the calipers? I take it that if I can find the correct specs as outlined above(offset, diameter, width, bolt-pattern, hub-bore) PLUS the measurements of the calipers it should be possible to buy the wheels online?<br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...the x-factor size....if the spoke design doesn't allow for enough clearance for the caliper itself...</TD></TR></TABLE><br>...then it ain't gonna work.<p>See this link for all the information you need to understand wheel fitment: <A HREF="https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html" TARGET="_blank">https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html</A>. See the Determining Wheel Caliper Clearance section of this document for the specifics on caliper clearance.<p>The following diagram is explained here: <A HREF="http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=95" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/wheels...id=95</A>. I deal with a guy named Luke at The Tire Rack ([email protected]) and he can answer just about any wheel question there is; one caveat in your situation, Johan, is that he probably won't have the specifics on the wheels you're interested in.<br><IMG SRC="http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh66/Fast_Eddie_B/WheelSuspensionDiagram.jpg" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by dradernh at 1:43 PM 4-14-2009</i>
 

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or look here:<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=13579" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=13579</A><p>Jim Lill put together a template which can be used to determine the x-factor clearance of a rim (the clearance for brake caliper). It will be tough to use it for purchasing online (unless you can get the wheel seller to use this template and take a pic showing you that the rims fit), but it should explain perfectly what the deal is with R wheel fitment issues.
 

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Re: Rims for the R (johanjaw)

Yo!!! make her go faster!!! F the wheels bro!! then bring your assss back to the US! cause yea im still stuck here!!
 

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Re: Rims for the R (VolvokidS60R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvokidS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yo!!! make her go faster!!! F the wheels bro!! then bring your assss back to the US! cause yea im still stuck here!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Why? The performance upgrades for the R are pathetic. Nice wheels and some ICE, leave the performance mods for true performance cars like Camrys <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Rims for the R (JoeLvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Why? The performance upgrades for the R are pathetic. Nice wheels and some ICE, leave the performance mods for true performance cars like Camrys <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Bla Bla Bla!!! Do you know WTF your saying..? they are what!!!?? I put FUKING money that my R will burn yours!! so in the summer the R dont run retarted..? so the Inter coolers is pointlesss... or i wont gane any HP by a down pipe exhust and tune..? your NUTZS!!! Like i said john go faster f the wheels. And bring your ass back to USA!!!!<br>Go get a honda Joelvo leave real cars for real men
 

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Re: Rims for the R (VolvokidS60R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvokidS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Bla Bla Bla!!! Do you know WTF your saying..? they are what!!!?? I put FUKING money that my R will burn yours!! so in the summer the R dont run retarted..? so the Inter coolers is pointlesss... or i wont gane any HP by a down pipe exhust and tune..? your NUTZS!!! Like i said john go faster f the wheels. And bring your ass back to USA!!!!<br>Go get a honda Joelvo leave real cars for real men</TD></TR></TABLE><p>lololol simma down you.. game night? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<p>I think what Joelvo was getting at is that the options for performance mods aren't plentiful and that the bang for buck isn't there. we all know that. <p>I don't think he was saying that the mods we do have are pointless nor do i think the camry comment was serious. if it was --> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> i'd take my R anyday over a run of the mill camry.<p>that said, i want an intercooler and will get one as soon as the budget allows and i'm envious of those that have them. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Rims for the R (JoeLvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>There is no way to know that, Johan, without measuring the x-factor size. With the R, you *cannot* simply buy a wheel off the shelf, even if it has the correct offset, diameter, width, bolt-pattern, hub-bore, etc...<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>When you say "x factor size" I take it you are refering to the calipers? <br>What would be the minimum fit for the calipers? I take it that if I can find the correct specs as outlined above(offset, diameter, width, bolt-pattern, hub-bore) PLUS the measurements of the calipers it should be possible to buy the wheels online?<br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or look here:<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=13579" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=13579</A><p>Jim Lill put together a template which can be used to determine the x-factor clearance of a rim (the clearance for brake caliper). It will be tough to use it for purchasing online (unless you can get the wheel seller to use this template and take a pic showing you that the rims fit), but it should explain perfectly what the deal is with R wheel fitment issues.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Looking at the date of that post makes that a legendary template! It's a crappy drawing, but it still works.<p>
 

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Re: Rims for the R (xman03)

LOL!! ok olny casue you told me too!! HELLLLLYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets kisck the girls butts tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! back to our old ways. sneaking and cheating! oo yea got new toys for the drimmle tool. and the box top is back off lol its nice and cold agen <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>VolvokidS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL!! ok olny casue you told me too!! HELLLLLYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets kisck the girls butts tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! back to our old ways. sneaking and cheating! oo yea got new toys for the drimmle tool. and the box top is back off lol its nice and cold agen <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Haha, I already got the party started at work.. drunk office life at best. But yeah it's nice and chilly out.
 
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