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I have a 1993 240 Wagon which I love and has served me nicely. And I'm sure it will continue to.<p>I have an opportunity to buy another Volvo, a 1989 740 (non-turbo) sedan which needs a head. It has the B230F motor.<br>It has 239K miles on it. So, just a general question for you Techs out there.<p>Would it be a good gamble to buy this 740 and put either a used head or a new head on it and give it moderate use? Or is this not a wise move in your opinion? <p>I understand this can only be answered in a very general sense, not knowing or seeing the car....but generally is this ever a good idea or not?<p>thanks<br>Bob<br>
 

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Re: replace head on high mileage car? (chromedome)

Welcome to Swedespeed, Bob.<p>If the 740 needs a head because of neglect and/or lack of maintenence then skip this adventure.<p>If the car has ZERO other major issues AND you have access to quality salvage parts and competent labor at a reasonable price then go for it.<p>Another consideration would be to get the car cheap and install an entire drivetrain from a low-mileage salvage - motor, trans, UCU, etc.<p>You mentioned "moderate use" - which implies (to me) that the car would not be a strong runner even with a new head.<p>Also, look it over for major rust before commitment.<p>Lessee here, Hudsons, Oldsmobiles, old cameras, guns and a possible foot fetish but I don't see the '93 240!<p>(is this you?)<p><A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/new-hampshire-photo/show" TARGET="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/n.../show</A>/<p>George Dill<p>
 

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Re: replace head on high mileage car? (gdill2)

Hi George<p> Thanks for the welcome!<p>#1- Thanks for the great advice! No rust issues with the 740 but it may be a little tired in the bottom of the motor according to a tech that has worked on it.......hence the question. I think your advice is stellar and I may be wise to stay away from this purchase and just keep my eyes open for a better a stablemate for my '93 240.<p>#2-Wow! You guys don't mess around here do you? One post and you know all there is to know about me. Very impressive!<p> In the past (pre-divorce) I collected cars.....had many a beauty of Hudsons and Olds 442's...not to mention a couple of Vettes and other interesting collector cars. Now in my current life--No Hudsons, no 442's, no Vettes. But there is an mint '87 Caddy Coupe DeVille given to me by my (still living) 103 year old friend-he bought it new. <br> I always had a strong desire to own a Volvo 240...just never got around to it. Picked one up in May. It is an everyday driver...and I have found a real love for Volvo's. <br> Now, George you really got me pegged...but tell me how did you know about the foot fetish? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>thanks again<br>Bob<br>
 

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Don't worry Bob. George does that to everyone! <br>As, perhaps, Devil's advocate...I wouldn't do it unless we're talking give-a-way prices. The 89 B230 still had the 9mm cross section connecting rods. With 230+K miles, witha new head you're still going to most likely have moderate or worse piston slap. If the car is relatively minty otherwise (w/ those miles doubtful) and you could get it for 100-200 dollars, it would be worth it but know you'd be better served swapping in a low mileage used motor/tranny with a known history. If you're able to do the work yourself, it would be a deal. Otherwise? A money pit. Wait for a good running one for the same price. I live in Dallas. I bought my 89 245 in 2003 for $50. Drove it to Minneapolis 4 weeks later. Next, I bought a 90 740 for $250. It had 125k and already had piston slap but I drove it 600 miles to San Antonio a week later. Good deals are out there. If you don't know the history and the price ain't right...don't buy it.
 

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"...Now, George you really got me pegged...but tell me how did you know about the foot fetish?"<p>Using this...<p><A HREF="http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en" TARGET="_blank">http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en</A><p>...and the email in your profile (just the ahudsonman part) gets this (safe search)...<p><A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=ahudsonman&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=active" TARGET="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?h...ctive</A><p>...with one of the hits showing your other email (bob40caliber) then back to google gets these...<p><A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=bob40caliber&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=active" TARGET="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?h...ctive</A><p>...which took me to the slideshow and your gun/feet/cars/cameras postings.<p>I gave you a break but since you asked here is more of your top secret background check skipping the credit check and call to your probation officers...<p><A HREF="http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?site_id=10583&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=Robert&name=Iozia&where=nh" TARGET="_blank">http://www.whitepages.com/sear...re=nh</A><p><A HREF="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=214+Franklin+Rd,+Salisbury,+NH+03268-5502&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=45.014453,101.25&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=A" TARGET="_blank">http://maps.google.com/maps?f=...loc=A</A><p>If you like go to the SWEDESPEED OFF TOPIC FORUM and post some of those foot pictures...<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zeroforum?id=4" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zeroforum?id=4</A><p><br>George Dill<p>
 

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swiftjustice44--thanks for your advice also. Yeah, unless this car falls in my lap...I will pass on it and hold off for a better conditioned Volvo.<p>George--Wow! I am impressed. You have got to be the most resourceful guy I know. But I am a fast learner and saved all the search methods you used. They will be very useful for the 2 small businesses I own and for the various yahoo groups I own. So, thanks much.<p>And I will practice by doing those searches on....oh I don't know.....let's say....maybe you! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I think I'm gonna like this forum very much!<p>all the best<br>Bob<br>
 

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Bob, George made his living with computers...I think he invented google. Often times, rather than engage in direct communication he prefers hyperlinks. As for the foot fetish? Heck, we're all looking for fellow foot followers! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><br>As for this forum...it is the most laid back, non-judgemental of them all. Try getting on Brickboard where they often engage in smackdowns and then rate your question with a thumbs down! Rally wierd. This is definitely the main source for me on push rod motors as well as stock questions. For abusive, aftermarket turbo type questions, I go to Turbobricks.com I read what everyone has done and then do what will keep my engines from exploding. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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swiftjustice44--thanks for the kind words.<p>George wanted to see a photo of the '93 240 Wagon.<p>Here are two.<p><br><A HREF="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2482/3807199941_4052e3f31c_o.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://farm3.static.flickr.com...o.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2660/3807200661_f298b955fe_o.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://farm3.static.flickr.com...o.jpg</A><p>Bob<br>
 

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Well George...you have it all covered.<br>Nothing left uncovered.<p>Perhaps they should call this forum the No Secrets Swede Forum----LOL.<p>all the best
 

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Chromedome, a welcome also from a fellow New Englander (transplanted to the Southwest). Have an '88 760 wagon with AZ. plates that say "CTYNKEE" (CT Yankee) on 'em.<p>Also (to George), just so I can be sure - am I listing (at least on posts) my car correctly when I put it as a 760GLE(SE)? I was told by my local Volvo mechanic (who will be closing his shop in the near future and retiring) some time ago that it's a "Special Edition" because my hood doesn't have the "normal" grille between it and the windsheild; it goes all the way back to the wipers and sweeps up to partially cover them. DMV lists it as a 760 GLE wagon.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mike_B</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...just so I can be sure - am I listing (at least on posts) my car correctly when I put it as a 760GLE(SE)?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>VIN?<p>George Dill
 

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Thanks for the welcome, Mike.<p>George is the man. Get him the VIN and he will clear up any confusion you have.<p>I did pass on the high mileage 740 that needed a head in favor of a 1990 240 Sedan that is in great shape.<p>
 

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We sure are thread hijakers, eh?!<p>Year/Make/Model: 1988 VOLVO 760 GLE <br>Body Style: STATION WAGON <br>Engine Type: 2.3L L4 FI SOHC <br>Manufactured In: SWEDEN<p>Wade through all of this for more 760 wagon stuff...<p><A HREF="http://www.nuceng.ca/bill/volvo/database/chassis.htm#760wagon" TARGET="_blank">http://www.nuceng.ca/bill/volv...wagon</A><p>To test your language skills...<p><A HREF="http://www.ajovalo.net/Historia/volvo_740.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ajovalo.net/Historia/volvo_740.htm</A><p><A HREF="http://solobugas.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/volvo-760-gle" TARGET="_blank">http://solobugas.wordpress.com...0-gle</A>/<p>...or turn to google for a translation...<p><A HREF="http://www.google.com/webmasters/igoogle/wordmonkey.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.google.com/webmaste....html</A><p>Might look into the car's history for any body repairs, mods, etc.<p>I'm off to find a VIN decoder for Volvo 700 series.<p>George Dill<p> <p><br>
 

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Mike_B - try this...<p>Tie a string to a magnet and the other end to a fish scale then lower the magnet over the front fender until it grabs then measure the pull needed to remove the magnet.<p>Repeat this on the closed hood.<p>If the hood pull is much less then your car has an alloy hood and that is one indication of a true special edition (SE).<p>George Dill<p>
 
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