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In the owner's manual it clearly tellys you to NOT allow the car to idle for prolonged periods of time. It reccomends to start the car and go right away. Just to drive very nice-like for the first few miles. The car was not designed to "warm up" at idle. An autostarter will be more likely to make you more comfortable but the car more miserable. Also, this is part of why Volvo added heated seats. If you are all concerned about the car being cold in the winter...look into a block heater. It will keep the motor warm as well as make the heating process much faster.

Just my 2-cents!

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Really? Not to talk poorly against Prospero, but...

I brought my car into Volvo to pick up some new trunk supports yesterday, and I showed up a little late because I let the car warm-up. I told the mechanic about it, and he told me that it was a very GOOD idea to let it warm up. I told him I do, becuase when I start off in the morning I hear the whining turbo if I don't let the car warm-up, it whines until the temperature gauge gets to it's halfway point, or what I think as the car's warmed up point.
 

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Matt...

hehehe..I'm less than 30 posts away~!!

As for the warm up topic...I tend not to warm up the car for too long. Waiting for the temp guage to come up is just a bit much. The most I'd ever let the car sit idle for warm up is no more than 1 min. I've been hearing from other Volvo dealer's service guys telling me, these cars don't need long warm up time. Doesn't mean you want to jump on the gas right after you start the car, but not going to harm your engine if you just take the first few miles with some common sense.
 

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I've always started the car, let the gas gauge come up (that's nothing more than a time indicator, so don't think I have any weird reason behind it), and then drive away. About 15-30 seconds for oil pressure to rise, then drive the car. If it just sits and idles, it takes much longer to warm up than if it was being driven. That means the car is polluting more since it's cold, and I would guess the engine is wearing a bit more too. And just because the water temp is up to normal levels doesn't mean the oil temp is. I usually try to go easy for the first few minutes, especially since my engine makes a little noise when it's cold.
 

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Stay away from car staters, most of all the ones put in by a 16 year old who should be a pizza delivery boy. I have seen real bad jobs done, even with a clean install problems will happen. Most of the time the components are cheap and will cause problems with the car. Some people to save money purchase the auto trans version and put it in a stick car, they are cheaper but the part that is not with it will alow the car to be started in gear, I have seen it in person a car into a wall, it was funny. They often have to be removed to perform proper tests on problems, and guess what is the cause nine times out of ten.

One point that I tell people is that if auto starters were such a good idea, the car makers would have them as an option, or say it is ok to install.

Get a block heater you will be warm in no time!
 

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Originally posted by 1FASTBOX:
Stay away from car staters, most of all the ones put in by a 16 year old who should be a pizza delivery boy. I have seen real bad jobs done, even with a clean install problems will happen. Most of the time the components are cheap and will cause problems with the car. Some people to save money purchase the auto trans version and put it in a stick car, they are cheaper but the part that is not with it will alow the car to be started in gear, I have seen it in person a car into a wall, it was funny. They often have to be removed to perform proper tests on problems, and guess what is the cause nine times out of ten.

One point that I tell people is that if auto starters were such a good idea, the car makers would have them as an option, or say it is ok to install.

Get a block heater you will be warm in no time!
I agree with you completely. I couldn't believe there was this kid I saw at local 7-11 last night, he was trying to impress me in front of his 14 yr gf by doing the remote start up. I didn't even bother looking at his r1cified old Prelude with blue conrner lights. Then he had to use the remote make some chirp to try to get my attention again. I just walked away as if he didn't exist.

Not sure if that hurt his feeling, though. I know that girl of his was impressed that her 16 yr bf was showing off his POS to another guy with a 240?!

hehe...funny thing is that area is usually where all the 'cool' high school kids hang out. You can see them pretty much every night just standing around and trying to look tough...and the girls dressed up like they were going clubbing, but all ended up standing around in front of a 7-11. Oh....the good old days.
 

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haha...riced out=all show, no go

guess no remote starter for me...freeze my a** off in the leather seats, oh how I love that feeling, haha...

hey Kai, just wondering what type of automotive detailing produts do you use on your car...and anyone else out there.
 

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I guess I'm lucky in a way, because I'm in Florida and winter for us is usually around 70. So, no need for a block heater down here, if anything we need a block cooler...

I used to have an Audiovox Remote Starter, that I had my Uncle professionally install, in my first car, which was an 88 740 Turbo Intercooler. I only experienced one problem with it, towards the end, after the remote had been beaten up pretty badly, the unlock, lock/remote start, buttons had been reversed, I still don't know how that could have happened. Of course, now that's my grandmother's problem, because it's her car now.

Anyways, I use black again products on my rubber, or some people find that their door handles are giving them problems, and replace them with 70 series handles. I used to use Tire Black products on my bumper, but then I realized that it wasn't such a good idea becuase it didn't have any UV protection, and it was a spray-on. I still use Tire Black products on my tires, so they look clean. I use Armor All wax, it works nicely, and doesn't take too long to apply. AS for the seats, I use this product called Leather Polish... original, huh? O well, it does the trick

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hey Kai, just wondering what type of automotive detailing produts do you use on your car...and anyone else out there.
Hi...I used use zymol stuff, but lately I like these Klasse All In One polish cleaning, and its seal. I haven't found another brand of wax yet. Most likely just use P21S. I used Final Inspection and the Sonux. Lexol leather cleaner for regular and light leather cleaning. P21S Total Autobody shampoo for some tougher leather, and I also use this for ext. cleaning. Lexol leather conditioner and Hide Food for more detail conditioning. Then I use these 3M vinyl cleaner/conditioner.

Well, there are still few more products I use, but don't want to bore you to sleep now.
 

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I just got my Klasse kit, I like it a lot and the longer protection span is pretty good. I need to get rid of the scratch lines and swirls with some 3M SMR though. Maybe get some One Grand Blitz wax as a topper, recommended by people at Autopian Car Car Online forum...Anyone try the new Blackfire products?

Sorry guys for posting this stuff here but the detailing section is kinda empty...
 

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Anyone try the new Blackfire products?

Sorry guys for posting this stuff here but the detailing section is kinda empty...
No..I couldn't wait for the Blackfire to come out, thought I needed to use the Klasse kit that weekend. But I'm still very happy with Klasse, though.

Hehehe...as long as the one who started the topic doesn't mind, I don't think George would say much about it.
 

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Yeah, my mom just got the C4 for herself about 1 month ago. My dad was jealous, but didn't want to go out and spend about $80,000, so he bought a 94 Miata with a Jackson Racing supercharger for about $8,000. It'll almost... ALMOST keep up with a car that costs 10x's as much, and my 850 isn't THAT far behind. Just wait until I get that RICA chip, 307 hp will probably let me beat my dad ,and my mom is yet another challenge, the handling on the C4 is amazing!!! And off the line, the 4 wheel drive can't be beat, fwd isn't the BEST competition... haha, not to mention Porsche vs. Volvo.
 

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Originally posted by JHEIII850Turbo:
Just wait until I get that RICA chip, 307 hp will probably let me beat my dad ,
Hmm..how fast are those SC Miata? Yeah..RICA and their bs 307 hp chip. Please someone in the States get that chip...please..just show me what 307 hp is like from just chip.

BTW I did add you on the hotmail thingy, it says you are only 15?!!?
 

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well, it's right. I am only 15, I'm turning 16 pretty soon. I'm thinking about getting that Rica chip, so I'll tell you about it. As for the Miata, it moves. So long as you get a good start off the line, it can run low 5's. It dies off once you hit 80, and that's where the 850 pulls by, and the c4 has a straight power curve up until about 120. As for the 960, it has fun watching at the end of the finish line with my brother holding a stop watch in it, btw he's 10, or it's lying in the driveway... haha, it's not the "race" car(s) in the family.
 
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