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This car continues the love hate relationship. I found some leaking from the weep hole under the bevel gear case so I brought it to the dealer to check. They just reported that the rear main engine seal is leaking and that its very likely the clutch will need to be replaced because of oil contamination and possible that the flywheel will need refinishing. In short, I'm looking at over $2K in charges after just replacing both rear bearings. What's next? Another used R on the market? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Rear main seal and clutch at 66k? (tachymetres)

I did the same repair at 75K, minus the rear main seal and flywheel since they were both in good shape. I found someone local to do it, and it saved me about $750.
 

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Re: Rear main seal and clutch at 66k? (tachymetres)

A leaky rear main seal won't get oil on your clutch and flywheel unless it's leaking A LOT. We're talking giant puddle under your car in a few minutes after parking. If it's just "weeping" a bit I wouldn't even worry about. I don't do anything until there's actually a puddle on the floor. My rear main seal on my built motor in my Z weeps, but it doesn't hurt anything and it doesn't even drip.
 

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Re: Rear main seal and clutch at 66k? (VOGZ)

I'd estimate it loses about 4-5 drops of oil overnight in the garage. I've been adding 1/4 - 1/2 quart per month.
 

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Re: Rear main seal and clutch at 66k? (tachymetres)

Sounds like the dealer wanted to make some extra cash on things that don't need to be replaced. Like everyone said the engine would have to be practically gushing oil to mess up the clutch and flywheel.
 

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if you can live with the drips dont both with anything . <p>I would first get my PCV system cleaned out and replaced. <p>That would probally stop those drips and at a 1/4 of the cost <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Could the PCV system cause leaking oil to drip from the weep hole under the bevel gear case? How would the oil get in there unless the seal was leaking? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tachymetres</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could the PCV system cause leaking oil to drip from the weep hole under the bevel gear case?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Wrong side of the engine. Turbo is above the bevel gear, though, and it has both oil lines and seals.<p>Rear main seal leaks are pretty obvious, as they appear on the bell housing. Clutch slave leaks can look the same, but the fluid is different. Drips from these areas can blow across the gap to the bevel gear, but won't appear there when stationary.<p>Tom.
 

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Thanks. The oil is definitely only dripping from the weep hole. No oil drips or residue anywhere else that I can see. And it is engine oil.
 

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wait where is the oil leaking from ? <p>The bevel gear or the actually tranny ? <p>if its from the bevel gear then its BV oil or tranny fluid . <p>if its from the engine area then the engine and yes replacing the PCV will more then likely stop a RMS leak. <p>The main reason RMS leak is due to built up pressure in the PCV system and then builds up to much engine pressure and blows out the RMS and Cam seals. <p>So to change the RMS and not the PCV is not a good idea since you will be right back where you started from
 

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RMS leak <p>heres a quick check pull out your dipstick and put a ballon on it . <p>if the ballon blows up (wich it will) your PCV is backed up. <p>Have that replaced and make sure they clean out the bottom holes on the PCV trap. <p>Good chance that this will stop the RMS leak. What ever you do dont and I cant stress this enough some sort of stop leak crap in your engine. <p>After the PCV is changed out good chance this tiny leak will go away. <p>If it doennt have them change out the RMS and the Clutch and thats it. <p>Regardless the PCV needs to be done anyhow .
 

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Thanks for the advice. You seem to know of what you speak so I'll give that a try and offer your suggestions to my indy mechanic.
 

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who me , I have no clue what I am talking about <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I just randomly make crap up and it sounds good <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I agree that a plugged PCV could cause the rear main seal to leak. We S40/V50 owners are all over the pull-my-dipstick trick, because our cars have an issue where a rubber diaphragm in the oil trap rips, driving crankcase pressure through the roof and blowing the front camshaft seals.<p>But, I haven't heard too many reports of this in the R. And even if it's the cause, the leak might not go away after restoring the pressure. Keep on this, though, and let us know what you find.<p>Tom.
 

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Comes down to more of the age of the car and milage and oil used.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tmtalpey</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But, I haven't heard too many reports of this in the R. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's not necessarily an R specific problem, it's across the board on all 5 cyl motors. The only thing I'm not sure of is which cars have the PCV system that clogs, or if it's all of them.
 

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