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Rear camber issues on stock suspension

2.8K views 17 replies 9 participants last post by  iainmd  
#1 ·
I took the car into the garage to have the wheels aligned as the last set of front tyres wore badly on the outside edges. They managed to get the front set to spec but they couldn't get the rear to adjust within spec.

My T5 has stock suspension so I can't really fathom how that's possible. Would the installation of a rear camber kit/control arms help to sort this?

All help appreciated.
 
#2 ·
Re: Rear camber issues on stock suspension (iainmd)

What is your rear camber right now?

And yes, the rear camber kit gives you +-1.5 degrees of camber adjustment. But, most people don't need the kit until they install lowering springs.
 
#3 ·
Re: Rear camber issues on stock suspension (lamarguy)

mine bone stock was at the limit which only in the US and only with the newest service bulletin allows 2.1 negative, while most of the world is something like 1.5 negative which is still high. Nutshell bone stock my car tears up the tires but stick well enough… I got the kit but have not installed considering the tires are already history due to noise alone.
 
#4 ·
Re: Rear camber issues on stock suspension (iainmd)

Yup, the service bulletin they gave me in June of this year shows an acceptable range of -1.5 degree +-1.0 degree (-2.5 to -.5). This allowed them to tell me that my -2.3 degree of right rear camber is okay...hmmm, change the specs if a line of cars are unable to be adjusted? What the???

Applies to C30/S40 2004 and up & V50/C70 2006 and up.

Bulletin was released in Nov 2007, 6-60-5500.

Horse feathers, it was probably released due to cost associated with a recall (IMO). They know it's not dangerous but my rears were ate up at 12,000mi and howling. Fronts are pure. I'm sure they know this.
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#5 ·
Re: Rear camber issues on stock suspension (Ride S40T)

Quote, originally posted by Ride S40T »
Horse feathers, it was probably released due to cost associated with a recall (IMO)....I'm sure they know this.
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Man, I felt your anger at "horse feathers"!
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#9 ·
Re: (volvos40t5)

Get the rear camber kit. I think I've seen it for around $180 nowadays. You can adjust it a lot. Based on my experience, a general rule of thumb is one full turn of the adjustment nut is about 1 full degree. I think you can adjust up to +-5 degrees.

I went from -2.8 to -0.75.
 
#10 ·
Re: (volvoNB)

$180 installed? What's it take to install ourselves? Shade tree mechanic can do or best to hit the Volvo shop?

Far cheaper than tires every 6-12 months. My Volvo shop in St Louis says they don't carry a kit from the manufacturer, in fact he had no idea what I was talking about (not really his line of work) and referred me back to the service folks who've already said -2.3* is okay and it hurts nothing...then why have specs? ...is my question...and then amend them?

Note to self. With new tires, no rotation. Let the fronts go until the need replacement because once those rears come forward after 12,000 or so of regular rotation - it became screaming loud in the cabin. On TWO sets of tires now.

Since the howlers were returned to the back, noise is minimal, almost pleasant and we can once again have a quiet conversation while on the highway. May remove and remount the fronts to switch sides in a few thousand or run "as is" until they need replaced. Rears still look brand new.

Ever so close to the perfect car, little hurdles.
 
#11 ·
Re: (Ride S40T)

I just looked at my last alignment. The rear cambers were -2.2 and -2.3 with a stock suspension (except for the sway bar) and yes my tires are getting chewed. I am thinking about getting a camber kit.
Stan
 
#12 ·
Re: (Ride S40T)

I installed it myself. Back then I think I bought it for $115. And the part was listed for the Mazda 3. If you can replace your springs, then you can install this. I had to remove my springs to install this. The passenger side was tricky because there was some pump in the way. In the end I unbolted the pump to remove the big bolt holding the camber arm in. Driver side was easy.

This is the original thread
http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...age=1
At least in there it has some pictures and describes some headaches I had to go through.

Just a FYI, when you need to adjust it, you just have to remove the wheel and loosen the nuts.
 
#15 ·
You can get them from Tire Rack, branded as Eibach, as well. I think it was $157 for the pair (though you have to order them as though for a MAZDA 3). I just ordered mine last week and have them sitting awaiting installation on Friday.

I do not know much about the stock arms, but these are probably heavier. Anyone know?
 
#16 ·
Re: (JMPrieur)

When installing these do you have to remove the "Leak Diagnostic Pump"?
 
#17 ·
Re: (AutoGeek)

Quote, originally posted by AutoGeek »
When installing these do you have to remove the "Leak Diagnostic Pump"?

That must be the pump I was bumping into. I believe there are 3 star screw things. I unscrewed it and moved it out the way but could not get the pump out.
 
#18 ·
Re: Rear camber issues on stock suspension (lamarguy)

Quote, originally posted by lamarguy »
What is your rear camber right now?

Fronts:
Left: -0.53
Right: -0.24

The rears are at:
Left: -2.15
Right: -1.19