[John Douglas]

Hi. I'm already making plans for my yet-to-be purchased 122 DD.

Has anyone attempted to install shoulders belts for the rear seat of a 2-dr 122? Any comments/advice would be appreciated

 

[Walrus3]

It can certainly be done. Belts from 140/164 or 240 will work. Some of the mounting points are there, others you get to engineer yourself.

 

[gdill2]

Hi. I'm already making plans for my yet-to-be purchased 122 DD.

Has anyone attempted to install shoulders belts for the rear seat of a 2-dr 122? Any comments/advice would be appreciated

Starter kit...

http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/index.htm?id=1439076&show_all=1

http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/index.htm?id=1439076&show_all=1

http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/index.htm?id=1424320&show_all=1

http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/index.htm?id=1234536&show_all=1

http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/index.htm?id=1451312&show_all=1

More later.

George Dill

 

[John Douglas]

Thanks, George...I'll explore my options

 

[gdill2]

Thanks, George...I'll explore my options

Let us know here when you are ready to remove the lower back seat when searching for any seatbelt anchor points.

BTW, always use new seatbelt webbing even if salvage belts appear as-new.

George Dill

 

[Bikeymikey]

i just got a set installed by my local auto upholstery shop. it looks like they did a bang up job, i will post pictures as soon as i get an opportunity to take them.

i initially wanted to do them myself, but... they're seatbelts, and they're for the kidlings, so i decided to go with good folks who have experience doing it.

 

[gdill2]

Hi. I'm already making plans for my yet-to-be purchased 122 DD.

Has anyone attempted to install shoulders belts for the rear seat of a 2-dr 122? Any comments/advice would be appreciated

Decided on the gray'63. Pickin it up today!!!!

i just got a set installed by my local auto upholstery shop. it looks like they did a bang up job, i will post pictures as soon as i get an opportunity to take them.

i initially wanted to do them myself, but... they're seatbelts, and they're for the kidlings, so i decided to go with good folks who have experience doing it.

That was quick!

Congrats on the '63 Amazon - consider starting a new thread with pics and history so we can admire your new DD.

Thanks.

George Dill

 

[John Douglas]

i just got a set installed by my local auto upholstery shop. it looks like they did a bang up job, i will post pictures as soon as i get an opportunity to take them.

i initially wanted to do them myself, but... they're seatbelts, and they're for the kidlings, so i decided to go with good folks who have experience doing it.

Nice! I'd really be interested in the pics as refernce for both myself and shop, if i decide to pursue that route.

 

[Bikeymikey]

here you go, sorry it took so long. i tried to show the topside and bottomside pics together, so:
this is top,

this is what it looks like underneath.

these holes are the center mounts. the only ones that came with the car.

 

[John Douglas]

Bikey...How long do the locking mechanisms need to be to extend from the holes for the center mounts thru the seat to allow for clicking into the seatbelt?

I think these are 13" long and may suffice to connect to bolt holes and then 'snake' thru center-arm rest openings.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/replacemen...566.jcwx?skuId=1202356&filterid=d17255y1963j1

 

[Bikeymikey]

hey John,

mine are 9", but mine don't snake through the center armrest opening. they emerge between the seat bottom and back. i'll take pics and post when i can..

 

[Mathil]

Seatbelt mounted on the rear shelf isn't ideal...Ideally the top mount is both to the side, behind, and above the shoulder level of the passenger. Check out any car built in the last few decades and they'll have them mounted in that position. Angled down and behind is for a race harness passing through a seat where the belt holes are above the shoulders of the occupant. That belt setup will hold someone in the car, but it might put a big compressive strain on their spine when they fly forward and the belt directs them downwards as they are constrained by the belt.

Some times the retractor calls to be mounted in a vertical position and not a horizontal position, as well. Check your manufacturer to be sure.

If the belts are just for legality and not safety, fire away...

 

[John Douglas]

I think I will plan to use the system as described/documented by Fredrik Lofter (not sure where link is, but have pdf of his approach) which uses the reals/retractors mounted vertically, inside of trunk, to the inner wheel housing. The belt is fed thru the rear shelf via the openings that are already there. The belt runners would be attached to the c-post with the existing fittings behind headliner. The end of the belt would be attached to the bottom of the c-post and supported underneath by some big-ass washers. Center push-buckles attached to the threaded holes behind the back seat (with additional waher and nuts underbody. Similar approach to Bikey, with just different retractor location.

 

[Bikeymikey]

Frederik Lofter's retractable seat belts

i wish i would have seen this before getting mine done.

 

[John Douglas]

Seat belts went in last night in just a couple of hours. However, the center buckles are a little long, at 13", and since the attachment bracket sits flush with the body, its causes the buckles to really make an ugly 'S' to snake thru the top/bottom seats and be located such that the occupant doesn't have to sit on it. Think I may try to source some other buckles, a bit shorter, with 90 degree mounting bracket.

 

[jg928s4]

mulled aroound in a pick a part yard yesterday, found a 65 122s that haad what I believe were 240 belts up front, and the old 3 pts in back. They were in bad shape but showed all the mounting points and possibility of clean upgrade. Currently I am researching all the aftermarket belts on line. the main question I have is what length of webbing should I geton the female end to reach up past seat, front and back. Also maybe getting the old Mustang tyle metal clasps? Thanks for the post.

 

[John Douglas]

Pics of my install per frederick Lofter's instructions:

Retraction wheel on inner wheel well:

End of belt connection to front of wheel housing:

Belt Runners to C-pillar:

center buckles to behind seat:

back together, but buckles pokin' you in the arse!

with a little reversal:

much better:

 

[gdill2]

Very nice work and a real cool Amazon...

http://s1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/JohnDouglas2/1963 Volvo 122/?albumview=slideshow

George Dill

 

[John Douglas]

Thanks, George. It will get there soon, well, eventually. I sold my S60R, so the Amazon is my true daily driver..so the work will continue in small increments.

 

[John Douglas]

mulled aroound in a pick a part yard yesterday, found a 65 122s that haad what I believe were 240 belts up front, and the old 3 pts in back. They were in bad shape but showed all the mounting points and possibility of clean upgrade. Currently I am researching all the aftermarket belts on line. the main question I have is what length of webbing should I geton the female end to reach up past seat, front and back. Also maybe getting the old Mustang tyle metal clasps? Thanks for the post.

Used these from JC whitney....length is adequate to mount in trunk and fit to center buckles...just my skinny kids in the back, but I tested it out on myself: 5'10", 165lbs and had plenty of extra belt length should I double up my burrito intake.

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...17255y1963j1&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13372038423284