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Can you change suspension settings any time? comfort to sport and back. Does the car have to in park position or can you change on the fly? thx
 

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Re: R 4C (row)

Any time and its not a subtle change. Like night and day when you go from comfort to advance.<p>
 

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Re: R 4C (BrunoS)

thx, how often and when do you use advanced? i have been using sport on hway, comfort on backroads.
 

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Re: R 4C (row)

Whenever you want to, this is YOUR car, there are no "rules"
 

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Re: R 4C (BrunoS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BrunoS</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any time and its not a subtle change. Like night and day when you go from comfort to advance.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Be careful since if you're getting jostled around on a bumpy road in Advanced mode it can sometimes be tricky to land your finger on the Sport or Comfort button <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>LTA<p>
 

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Re: R 4C (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whenever you want to, this is YOUR car, there are no "rules"</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think he was trying to figure out if it COULD be changed while moving or i there was a limitation on making dynamic changes to the setup.
 

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Re: R 4C (row)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>row</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thx, how often and when do you use advanced? i have been using sport on hway, comfort on backroads.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>personally I use sport most of the time, occasionally comfort on bad roads but that is a mixed bag because it brings out the worst of the sidehop problem; I only use advanced in limited bursts (like when going around a highway on-ramp at high speed) because the roads around here make the ride too punishing to put up with for very long<p>advanced changes the throttle mapping to a more aggressive set which, not surprisingly, most of us like <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> . If you have an automatic you can do the same thing by hitting the little "S" button next to the gear shifter, thus you can change the throttle map independent of 4C mode (e.g., comfort + S)
 

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Re: R 4C (kenschel)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kenschel</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>personally I use sport most of the time, occasionally comfort on bad roads but that is a mixed bag because it brings out the worst of the sidehop problem; I only use advanced in limited bursts (like when going around a highway on-ramp at high speed) because the roads around here make the ride too punishing to put up with for very long<p>advanced changes the throttle mapping to a more aggressive set which, not surprisingly, most of us like <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> . If you have an automatic you can do the same thing by hitting the little "S" button next to the gear shifter, thus you can change the throttle map independent of 4C mode (e.g., comfort + S)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is exactly how I feel about and use 4C. I am hoping that a new set of tires other than my rapidly wearing Pilot Sport A/S's help the hop a bit more. I do wish that Comfort and Advanced were more usable.
 

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Re: R 4C (kenschel)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kenschel</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>advanced changes the throttle mapping to a more aggressive set which, not surprisingly, most of us like <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> . If you have an automatic you can do the same thing by hitting the little "S" button next to the gear shifter, thus you can change the throttle map independent of 4C mode (e.g., comfort + S)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>S only changes the shifting pattern, not the throttle map. The throttle map is only available in advanced mode.
 

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Re: R 4C (partridge)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>partridge</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>S only changes the shifting pattern, not the throttle map. The throttle map is only available in advanced mode.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nope, this is incorrect. I know it doesn't state it in the manual, but it has been discussed here before. The S button definitely makes the throttle respond more drastically given the same pedal movement. Either that, or I have the only GT that does this. It is a VERY noticable difference.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Nope, this is incorrect. I know it doesn't state it in the manual, but it has been discussed here before. The S button definitely makes the throttle respond more drastically given the same pedal movement. Either that, or I have the only GT that does this. It is a VERY noticable difference. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It has been discussed here before in depth. If you could dig up the thread I'd appreciate it, because last time we all went into this I thought it was agreed that the S-button only affected the transmission shifting. If you change it into advanced, then you get throttle mapping as well and possibly timing changes as well as the shift points. Otherwise the manual trannies would also have an S-button so that they could engage the throttle map independently of the 4C suspension.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nope, this is incorrect. I know it doesn't state it in the manual, but it has been discussed here before. The S button definitely makes the throttle respond more drastically given the same pedal movement. Either that, or I have the only GT that does this. It is a VERY noticable difference. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Agreed 100%. I can't (read won't) even drive the car without the 'S' pushed. Tis a totally different car. You can especially tell off the line. Without 'S' pressed the car is a DOG.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nikhsub1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Agreed 100%. I can't (read won't) even drive the car without the 'S' pushed. Tis a totally different car. You can especially tell off the line. Without 'S' pressed the car is a DOG.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yup, it's much slower. I find myself not wanting to use the S button because I end up going too fast! <p>Partridge, I'll search, but here's an easy trick you can do yourself. Get a paper cup, and tape it under the throttle pedal so that it acts as a stop. You may have to adjust it. Note I said paper cup so you can smash through with no problem in case of emergency.<p>Drive to a remote area, such as a large empty parking lot and tape the cup under the throttle pedal. Start the car and do an acceleration run with the sport mode off. Time yourself to maybe 30 or 40. Now do it with the s mode on. The paper cup stopper will show you that for a given partial pedal opening, you'll get much more throttle opening and much more response with the S mode. <p>When I have time, I'll look for some of those old threads. I read them way back when before I bought the car and started posting.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Drive to a remote area, such as a large empty parking lot and tape the cup under the throttle pedal. Start the car and do an acceleration run with the sport mode off. Time yourself to maybe 30 or 40. Now do it with the s mode on. The paper cup stopper will show you that for a given partial pedal opening, you'll get much more throttle opening and much more response with the S mode. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Unless you're keeping it in 1st gear only, this won't work. The change in shifting pattern exists for a reason, and it will affect your times. I dug through the old threads. Some people claim there's a difference, but the more reliable sources say there it only affects the transmission.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>partridge</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you're keeping it in 1st gear only, this won't work. The change in shifting pattern exists for a reason, and it will affect your times. I dug through the old threads. Some people claim there's a difference, but the more reliable sources say there it only affects the transmission.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It will work, because you're only going to be using partial throttle, not enough to be shifting gears. <p>I'll have to dig up where I read this. But even my wife notices the difference (she says it's more "jumpy"). <p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>partridge</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">S only changes the shifting pattern, not the throttle map. The throttle map is only available in advanced mode.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>if you have a 6MT, throttle map change only happens in advance mode; the geartronic cars have it both ways--you can get the throttle map and shift point changes by using the S button, regardless of suspension mode, or you can select advanced and get the suspension stiffness plus throttle map plus shift point change.
 
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