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I'm on the fence on whether to get a XC60 R design or go for the S60 R Design.

Technically I need to get a CUV because the wife has a car - however, she is also due for a car in a year, so technically I could get the car and she could get a CUV.

I am having a hard time picking between XC60 or S60 R design.

Does the XC60 have upgrade brakes? what are peoples thoughts between the 2?

The other car I'm looking at is an EX37 (i currently drive a 2010 EX35)

Lease is up in March.


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Sounds the CUV is a better fit. In all honesty, the biggest downside to the XC60 vs the S60 is that its center of gravity is significantly higher so it will feel more "tippy" than the S60 - even with the stiffer RD suspnsion. Beyond that, I thing the XC60 looks pretty dang good (better in its class than I think the S60 looks compared to some of its rivals). No CUV is REALLY going to be sporty since the height always gets in the way. However, it sounds like you need the space and if your life (like most of ours) is really more about commuting and occasional freeway blasts than "track time", the XC is likely a better choice. It will certainly have more utility than the EX series while still driving somewhat smaller (probably between the EX and FX from Infiniti).
 

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hmm... i think my biggest gripe is

1) I don't know much about volvo cars - (the first car i bought myself was a 350Z) and i am familiar around it -

2) the interior color option for the XC60 kills me!! (i like dark seats, and that white + off black would be the closest thing I would consider)

3) I am not sure if i like the navigation (but i will not opt for portable) - and definitely will not go without one

I guess I will need to test drive it again come Feb...

Now i know this sounds immature - but I am obsessed with mods and I noticed it doesn't seem like anyone does anything (much of anything rather) to their volvos.... again forgive my lack of knowledge, but is it hard to find things like BBKs and things like that for the Volvo? (and sorry, but welding on exhaust tips is not my idea of a mod)

Or like the day time running LEDs - can the array be swapped out? and has it been done?
 

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hmm... i think my biggest gripe is

1) I don't know much about volvo cars - (the first car i bought myself was a 350Z) and i am familiar around it -

2) the interior color option for the XC60 kills me!! (i like dark seats, and that white + off black would be the closest thing I would consider)

3) I am not sure if i like the navigation (but i will not opt for portable) - and definitely will not go without one

I guess I will need to test drive it again come Feb...

Now i know this sounds immature - but I am obsessed with mods and I noticed it doesn't seem like anyone does anything (much of anything rather) to their volvos.... again forgive my lack of knowledge, but is it hard to find things like BBKs and things like that for the Volvo? (and sorry, but welding on exhaust tips is not my idea of a mod)

Or like the day time running LEDs - can the array be swapped out? and has it been done?
If you're looking for a "mod car", you might have the wrong brand.

As to the questions, if you can figure out the Nissan brand, you can learn the Volvo brand. Just spend some time reading. Perhaps start here:

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120301/CARREVIEWS/120309995

The dark interior with the light trim on the R is fantastic. Trust me, I have it.

And the Navigation is very well done.

Spend more time with the car.
 

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Mods are virtually non-existent for these cars compared to competing offerings from, say, BMW.
 

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(i like dark seats, and that white + off black would be the closest thing I would consider)
Using overseas delivery (OSD) you can get different options than what is normally available in the USA. For example, I have all black leather R-Design seats in my XC60 RD, normally only available in Europe. With the special stitching and R logo they look great! You can check all the special OSD options via the Volvo website OSD documentation. FYI, there are OSD specialist dealers that monitor the OSD forum and can help answer questions...
 

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Using overseas delivery (OSD) you can get different options than what is normally available in the USA. For example, I have all black leather R-Design seats in my XC60 RD, normally only available in Europe. With the special stitching and R logo they look great! You can check all the special OSD options via the Volvo website OSD documentation. FYI, there are OSD specialist dealers that monitor the OSD forum and can help answer questions...
That is great to know! I hadn't even thought about that. How about pricing? Was it aggressively competitive to buy your own? I know this sounds crazy, but Truecar.com was offering 46,000 for an XC60 RD that was 53,000 MSRP.

Also - i must ask, do you also not like the off black/white interior option?

And how is the navigation?
 

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How about pricing? Was it aggressively competitive to buy your own? ... Also - i must ask, do you also not like the off black/white interior option? And how is the navigation?
Volvo provides 2 rt tickets to Gothenburg, hotel, and a price that is at a discount to sticker. However, while the trip is unforgetable, for price I think you can do a better job if you are good at dealing on your own. The white leather stripes standard on the USA spec RD are fine, I was just looking for special options that stand out if someone knows Volvo's. The integrated nav is fine with very good audio commands that work well while driving. But of course the best part is driving with 325 HP engine / Geartronic 6 spd.
 

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Volvo provides 2 rt tickets to Gothenburg, hotel, and a price that is at a discount to sticker. However, while the trip is unforgetable, for price I think you can do a better job if you are good at dealing on your own. The white leather stripes standard on the USA spec RD are fine, I was just looking for special options that stand out if someone knows Volvo's. The integrated nav is fine with very good audio commands that work well while driving. But of course the best part is driving with 325 HP engine / Geartronic 6 spd.
Thank you so much for the information!!

I guess i'll be spending these next 4 months figuring out if i want the S60 or the XC60.
 

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For what it is worth...if you are getting the XC for the "utility" part of Sport Utility - it kind of comes up lacking. I cut down some drywall to 4' x 4' sheets and they did not fit in the hatch - even at an angle. This is the price paid for such sweeping good looks.

My Sister in Law has an S60R and it is a little more nimble in the handling department, the XC is easier to get in and out of and nicer to drive in traffic because you can see around cars in front of you.

Either way, you can expect some dismal MPG if you drive mostly in the city (17-18 for us).
 

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For what it is worth...if you are getting the XC for the "utility" part of Sport Utility - it kind of comes up lacking. I cut down some drywall to 4' x 4' sheets and they did not fit in the hatch - even at an angle. This is the price paid for such sweeping good looks.

My Sister in Law has an S60R and it is a little more nimble in the handling department, the XC is easier to get in and out of and nicer to drive in traffic because you can see around cars in front of you.

Either way, you can expect some dismal MPG if you drive mostly in the city (17-18 for us).


To be honest - i'm not looking for "alot" of utility - if that were the case I would get a real SUV or pick up. - I was mulling over the idea of a small CUV for the convenience of going to Costco ... haha

I think what it will come to is if I enjoy the ride visibility, or if I want a sporty sedan again.
 

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I also tend to think the R-design model is a very unique AND sporty looking cross-over. I have gotten several nice compliments, and I do think it sticks out a bit from the GLK/X3/Q5 models - each with its own look, but ours tends to be a bit sportier, and a bit more distinctive. Although, I could be biased. :)
 

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I second law guy. A little biased, but I get a lot of people saying my car is cool or hot! I see people stopping to look at it in parking lots.
 

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The more I read and listen to you guys the more i'm persuaded to go with the XC60 RD. I really like Saville Grey ...so when it comes time to place the order I think i will ask them to swap out the silver side mirror housings to be color matched.

I also noticed that Heico has a BBK upgrade (clearly only for aesthetics), and I'm interested in that rear valence + exhaust.
 

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Heico sportive aftermarket parts are extremely expensive.

I was in talks of getting my car sponsored by Heico Sportive North America, since they WERE right here in new york.... however Heico decided to shut down their current N.A. distribution.
so I am in limbo at the moment... I mean there are shops here that the ex Heico sportive crew can work out of but it will be paying full price.

now the Heico bbk is $7000 usd before parts and labor.

I came from an import background. used to drive a root style supercharged stage 1 tiburon with arkspeed racing I/h/E and 13" K- Sport BBK.

it is a very limited aftermarket scene here for the XC60.


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however if you do decided to do something aftermarket with you xc60 R. please do share with us!


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Heico sportive aftermarket parts are extremely expensive.

I was in talks of getting my car sponsored by Heico Sportive North America, since they WERE right here in new york.... however Heico decided to shut down their current N.A. distribution.
so I am in limbo at the moment... I mean there are shops here that the ex Heico sportive crew can work out of but it will be paying full price.

now the Heico bbk is $7000 usd before parts and labor.

I came from an import background. used to drive a root style supercharged stage 1 tiburon with arkspeed racing I/h/E and 13" K- Sport BBK.

it is a very limited aftermarket scene here for the XC60.


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however if you do decided to do something aftermarket with you xc60 R. please do share with us!


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Definitely :)

I am 100% on the XC60 vs. S60 now, and just need to find a dealer in the Long Island area that supports the A-plan from VCOA
 

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oh, you are in Long Island?! hello neighbor.

let me know if you will need help on deciding and inventory wise. we live in Greenpoint Brooklyn and shopped all over town. ended up getting our 12 XC60 t-6 fully loaded for the price we can not refuse at Edison NJ. it is 3 volvo dealerships combined and the sales rep is fantastic. Also their Volvo parts are always on sale and its lower then some
Internet pricing.

you may already found what you want but if not, I highly recommend them and give you the reps number.

(he always hook us up with a loaner car even if the service dept couldn't)


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oh, you are in Long Island?! hello neighbor.

let me know if you will need help on deciding and inventory wise. we live in Greenpoint Brooklyn and shopped all over town. ended up getting our 12 XC60 t-6 fully loaded for the price we can not refuse at Edison NJ. it is 3 volvo dealerships combined and the sales rep is fantastic. Also their Volvo parts are always on sale and its lower then some
Internet pricing.

you may already found what you want but if not, I highly recommend them and give you the reps number.

(he always hook us up with a loaner car even if the service dept couldn't)


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Hello neighbor back to you! Hope you fared ok in Greenpoint! I have many customers in the brooklyn area that sustained heavy damage.

I am having a hard time looking for a good Volvo dealer. Hassel Volvo is literally own the road from me, but I don't like any of their sales people. I tried just emailed the service managers or internet sales reps and I have had no reply from Volvo dealers in the Tri-state area.

If you would like to pass along your reps info, that would be greatly appreciated!


Your future list is very similar to mine!! :D (good taste haha)

But if i can get this signed off before 2013 - i won't do any until after our 5 year S+S is done.


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