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We currently have a 2000 VW Passat 1.8T<P>We are considering an S60 for our next car. I was wondering if someone could answer my questions...<P>-Is there much torque steer on the S60? (The Passat has none, so, we're kind of used to the absence of torque steer)<P>-How is the acceleration compared to a Passat?<P>-I have seen the S60 equipped with a "2+2" rear seat, is this available on US models?<P>-Has anyone experienced the european delivery program? If so, how was it?<P>Thanks,<P>Matt <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif">
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RENEGADE:<BR><B>We currently have a 2000 VW Passat 1.8T<P>We are considering an S60 for our next car. I was wondering if someone could answer my questions...<P>-Is there much torque steer on the S60? (The Passat has none, so, we're kind of used to the absence of torque steer)<P>-How is the acceleration compared to a Passat?<P>-I have seen the S60 equipped with a "2+2" rear seat, is this available on US models?<P>-Has anyone experienced the european delivery program? If so, how was it?<P>Thanks,<P>Matt <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Matt,<P>I drive an S60 2.4T and do feel some torque steer under brisk acceleration. I do not enjoy this, but for a FWD vehicle, it is not too bad. Under normal use, I do not feel any real tugging in the steering wheel. I traded a 97 Audi A6 quattro wagon for this car, and I do miss the quattro drivetrain.<P>I cannot answer any of your other questions.<P>Regards,<P>Jim DeSalvio<P>
 

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I can't imagine torque steer is a problem on the S60 under "normal" conditions. I suppose if you drive the car hard you may notice it. I haven't.<P>Compared to a Passat 1.8T, the 2.4T S60 accelerates considerably better. I can't speak to the V6 Passat comparison.<P>Not sure what you mean by "2+2 rear seat." The S60 rear legroom is quite limited, however, if that's what "2+2" means.
 

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We have a 1999 VW Passat 1.8T and just purchased a S60 T5. I'm not sure which S60 you are considering but we drove all of the models.<P>- the 2.4 seemed a little sluggish compared to the Passat and the 15" tires left something to be desired in regards to road feel and handling. I have 15"'s on my Passat but the ride is alot stiffer.<P>- the 2.4T was spirted and the 16"'s improved the feel for the road. Accelerating is much improved over the 1.8T.<P>- T5 is quite fast and the 17"'s make all the difference in the world as far as road feel and handling. We got the 5 speed and the shift is somewhat ackward. The seats split 60/40 which is convenient. You would have to seriously modify the Passat to keep up with the T5. The T5 has 97 more horses and you feel them all.<p>[This message has been edited by crows1886 (edited 08-09-2001).]
 

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crows -<P>I'm curious what you mean by "awkward shifting". I've never driven a manual trans in the new volvos, and am curious what they're like. Can you fill in a few details? Thanks.<P>- Darell<P>
 

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I do not know which S60 you are referring to, however I have an S60 2.4 with a Manual Transmission. This should be comparable to the 1.8T in terms of power. First off, the 2.4 5 cylinder is a much more reliable engine and is more powerful. I have driven both a 1.8T Passat and the Volvo and would take the Volvo drivetrain any day. Coupled with a manual transmission the Volvo has a good kick to it and acceleration is more brisk to that of a Passat.<P>Granted its not as fast as a 2.4T or a T5, however you do get steady acceleration and minimal torque steer if any. The gearbox is working well, yet I have less than 1000 kms on it, so I expect it will become better with time. <P>If you are really worried about the tourque steer, wait for the AWD variant in 2002, but if you are looking at the Passat 1.8T, go for the 2.4 with the manual.<P>Good Luck!
 

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Darell:<P>By awkward shifting I mean that there are long throws and the shift feels more mechanical. Not the same experience if one drives say a car of German persuasion. Now if we did it all over again we still would get the 5 speed over the automatic.<p>[This message has been edited by crows1886 (edited 08-10-2001).]
 
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