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Ok so I replaced the brake pads in the S40, and fronts went in smoothly. Rears I had a problem with the retainer clip on the backing pad/piston. I pushed the piston all the way back in and tired to attach the three spring clips onto the piston. They ended up getting bent badly and me in my infinite wisdom thought they were only anti-squeal clips so I cut them off. Well about a month after driving the car they are rattling badly. I ordered a new set of pads but I am still wondering how the hell do you get the three spring steel pieces to attach to the piston. Do you work one side, then the other and then then top or does it seat itself when you apply the brakes and then it just snaps into place. <p>I have never ran into any retainer clip like the ones on this car; bizarre looking buggers if you ask me! <p>Todd
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Bigblk4)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but don't the spring clips slide inside the piston? It's not really an attachment rather a push to seat the pad to the piston.
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Bigblk4)

Yeah, you've got to wiggle it a bit to get all three clips inside the piston, but with a little patience it can be done.
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (slrising)

Yes thats the way the front go but the rear have a strange retainer clip, not raised at all its 3 sliding steel pieces.<p>the fronts have the 3 spring steel peices that are raised and slide into the piston. Most cars have this type of attachment, that was easy enough to replace. <p>The rears have three sliding wires that slide to fit the rear piston.<br><IMG SRC="http://i44.tinypic.com/jfg3za.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>and<p><IMG SRC="http://i44.tinypic.com/5vwu1w.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>from S40 forums<p><A HREF="http://www.s40forums.freeforums.org/how-to-brake-job-05-s40-t5-w-awd-t24.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.s40forums.freeforum....html</A><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Bigblk4 at 2:30 PM 6-4-2009</i>
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Bigblk4)

Hey Todd. When you are snapping pics of that piece for me maybe you can take some pics of the brake stuff you are talking about so people have a better visual idea of what you are referring to. Not sure how hard it is to get to them, just a thought...
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (carreragt7)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carreragt7</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Todd. When you are snapping pics of that piece for me maybe you can take some pics of the brake stuff you are talking about so people have a better visual idea of what you are referring to. Not sure how hard it is to get to them, just a thought...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I dont have the new pads yet (shipped today) so for me to pull the pads on that are on there now wont do a bit of good cause the retainers are missing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>If its of use to you guys I can shoot some pics and put them up as an official 2004.5 S40 T5 FWD brake job. lemme know if that would be of use! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Bigblk4)

I'm sure someone on here can benefit from such a thing, unfortunately I have AWD so I don't know if there is much difference in the brake system. Either way, hope you get this figured out to your liking. Brake jobs scare me as I don't trust myself with other's lives on the line if my brake job failed. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (carreragt7)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carreragt7</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm sure someone on here can benefit from such a thing, unfortunately I have AWD so I don't know if there is much difference in the brake system. Either way, hope you get this figured out to your liking. Brake jobs scare me as I don't trust myself with other's lives on the line if my brake job failed. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Eh we got enough air bags to choke a horse and I always aim for the softest thing to hit i.e. bush, pile of marshmellows, nerf <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Ok I will get some shots of the new brake install, if you have the AWD but its a 2004.5 or 2005 I know the rear calipers have the same fitup as the pictures of what I show are from an AWD S40.
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Bigblk4)

Sweet, mine is an 05. Just notice I took that out of my sig, gonna put that back...
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Bigblk4)

A FWD brake job picture tutorial would be a great resource if you could put one together. I've seen a few video tutorials on youtube, but references to our exact brake setup would be much more helpful.
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Sanborn)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sanborn</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A FWD brake job picture tutorial would be a great resource if you could put one together. I've seen a few video tutorials on youtube, but references to our exact brake setup would be much more helpful. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You got it. Ill get a chance to do it on the 20th and ill do a full write up! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Sanborn)

There is one for the fronts here:<A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=100884" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=100884</A><p>But nobody has made one for the rears yet that I've been able to find.
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (slrising)

Guys,<br>After webcrawling a few sites I found that it is a fairly common issue and there was a "tech note" about it and the use of a heavy backing grease. <p><A HREF="http://volvoforums.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-17169.html" TARGET="_blank">http://volvoforums.com/forum/a....html</A><p><br>I will do a write up with pictures on replacement of front and rear pads and rotors as well as show pictures of the anti-rattle clips that need to hug the piston.<br>Todd<br>
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Bigblk4)

Ok so the original pads have the springs on the back of the inside pad which slide onto the piston. Thats no more with the new pads. The new volvo pads have the 2 springs on the top which are just to put pressure on the top side of the pad. Those are to be held tight with the caliper itself.<p>You should have any issues with the pads rattling or anything if assembled correctly. The grease as mentioned is required for all volvo brake jobs. May not cause a rattle but will definitely cause a squeak if not applied to all moving brake components such as side of the pads and the back of them.
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (ForceFed Motorsports)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ForceFed Motorsports</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok so the original pads have the springs on the back of the inside pad which slide onto the piston. Thats no more with the new pads. The new volvo pads have the 2 springs on the top which are just to put pressure on the top side of the pad. Those are to be held tight with the caliper itself.<p>You should have any issues with the pads rattling or anything if assembled correctly. The grease as mentioned is required for all volvo brake jobs. May not cause a rattle but will definitely cause a squeak if not applied to all moving brake components such as side of the pads and the back of them.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks Kyle. Well the pads I have are the old style with the mouse trap in the back. What a PITA!!!! I am going to get a hand from my Dad and use dental picks to put it on the car. <p>At first when I saw the pads I thought they might be the wrong ones, I then pulled the old pads off the car and they had the same mousetrap design. I ended up bending the wires trying to get them on the car so I ended up cutting them off with wire cutters (mangled anyway). I applied anti-squeal grease to the backing of the pad as well. <p>I am thinking with the dental picks and another set of hands I can tackle it. If not, Ill still go through the motions of a new install for demo purposes but will take it to the dealer to get them to do it!<br>Again thanks Kyle for looking into this <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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From what im told they dont pop on they slide on, never installing a set of original pads im not entirely certain. Luckily another tech was doing a set of rear pads on a S40 so i walked over and checked em out.<p>The new style pads just have a little spring on top that the caliper puts pressure on. Must have realized the crazy thing on the back of the OE pads was retarded lol.
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (ForceFed Motorsports)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ForceFed Motorsports</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what im told they dont pop on they slide on, never installing a set of original pads im not entirely certain. Luckily another tech was doing a set of rear pads on a S40 so i walked over and checked em out.<p>The new style pads just have a little spring on top that the caliper puts pressure on. Must have realized the crazy thing on the back of the OE pads was retarded lol.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah they dont look like they would roll onto the piston, I am going to try and push the piston in but not all the way to see if it will give me enough clearance to slide them on as the mousetrap bracket is on the two sides and the top.<p>I assume the new style of pad have the rabbit ears type springs, those are a cake to replace.<p>My Dad worked with a lot of the VW/Audi Engineers pointing out faults/complaints mechanics had with "problematic" parts <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Bigblk4)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Bigblk4</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>My Dad worked with a lot of the VW/Audi Engineers pointing out faults/complaints mechanics had with "problematic" parts <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well theres plenty of them especially with the european cars lol.
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (ForceFed Motorsports)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ForceFed Motorsports</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well theres plenty of them especially with the european cars lol. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You said it brother! I used to joke with my Dad saying I wanted the little gremlin that they drop in the car to fix the stuff that breaks. They would give about a 3" teather on the wires to the door as compared to the 18" that an american car would have. Granted Germans pride themselves on the engineering for Audi but man oh man are they a PITA to work on!!!
 

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Re: question about brake pad install (Bigblk4)

Agreed, too bad their engineering then gets sent out to another company which makes the parts and thus why the stuff fails lol. Main problems we run in to is that volvos engineering or SW doesnt match up right with the parts from poland or wherever. Same complaint that most have with a PC compared to a Mac which produces both themselves.
 
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