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I currently own 2 Volvos, a 1998 S70 and a 2004 XC90. I have been generally quiet about problems and quality issues with Volvo vehicles, but this weekend got my goat. I went to check my oil level on our S70 and the bloody handle broke off the dipstick. What crap! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> Why they put a cheap plastic handle on a dipstick I have no idea.<p>If an air pump, heater core, door panel replacement, two door locks and window switch panel, on the S70 wasn't enough? The XC90 isn't proving to be any better. I have already had 2 radio system repairs in the first 10,000 miles along with other misc. recalls.<p>Listen VOLVO if you have ears! The dipstick has now sent me over the edge. When this car is done. We will be looking for something more reliable. Perhaps a asian product. Consumer report seems to place alot of faith in them.
 

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Re: Quality Issues (Adam H.)

Same thing happened on my coworker's 3-years old Honda last week.
 

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Not to sound nasty...but I have had several customers with the same problem. After looking into it, generally they only checked the oil once in a blue moon. The o-ring will bond to the throat of the dipstick tube and leave you with a really tight fit. So, if you check your oil at every fill-up...odds are you'd never have that issue again.<p>All being said, I've had 5 Volvo cars and many well over 100k miles (one just shy of 300k miles) with only minor issues. Never had a dipstick break in the holder before...but then again, I check the oil @ every gas fill-up to kill time.<p>So, I've got to ask...how often do you chek the oil?<p>Cheers,<br>Prospero
 

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I happen to be one of the few who does his own maintenance and I check my oil often. There is very little plastic actually holding the handle to the metal shaft of the dipstick and the gasket was in perfect condition. It is just not very well made.<p>I think you missed the basis for the posting. I am getting very disturbed by the ongoing issues with these vehicles. When you not only have larger more expensive repairs, and yet are plagued by small pain in the butt issues it begins to push your buttons. These are expensive cars and you would expect a level of quality that exceeds that of a Ford Escort. <p>I am only fortunate that I have been able to do all of the repairs myself to date except for the warrantee items on the XC90.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Adam H.</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I happen to be one of the few who does his own maintenance and I check my oil often. There is very little plastic actually holding the handle to the metal shaft of the dipstick and the gasket was in perfect condition. It is just not very well made.<p>I think you missed the basis for the posting. I am getting very disturbed by the ongoing issues with these vehicles. When you not only have larger more expensive repairs, and yet are plagued by small pain in the butt issues it begins to push your buttons. These are expensive cars and you would expect a level of quality that exceeds that of a Ford Escort. <p>I am only fortunate that I have been able to do all of the repairs myself to date except for the warrantee items on the XC90.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is the beauty of Volvo ownership. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Small items (and a few large ones, break). With good maintenance Volvos will last a very long time but there most definitely are some issues, (stuff fails that shouldn't fail and other assorted little goodies crap out that can try a person's patience)<br>That being said, a well maintained Volvo at 150K feels more of less like it did at 60K. I don't know too many other cars that can make that claim.<br>If you want freedom from repairs in general, buy Japanese, drive a boring car
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gdogg16</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It happens... I've seen the same thing on a ton of cars. Just go to the dealer and drop a whopping 10 bucks on a new handle and pop it on there..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That may be easier said than done. Since Dearborn took over the parts inventory system it's as bad as it was for my wife's old Mercury. It took about a half-dozen attempts to get a new cap for my Volvo's PS resorvoir because the "updated" one wouldn't fit on the old reservoir. (I thought buying a new PS pump because of a minor leak in the cap gasket was a little extreme. No, they don't sell the gasket separately, either.) Finally the parts guy stripped the cap from a broken pump and that one's been on the car since. <p>I've heard similar stories about the dipsticks, they aren't all identical. <p>If I want adventure I'll buy a Land Rover and every time I turn the ignition key I'll have that extra bit of excitement in my life because I'll never be sure if I'll ever see my family or my home again. No thanks, I'll go German (or Japanese if I'm sober) when (if) I finally manage to wear this thing out. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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It's probably subjective: I have a 2002 BMW 3 series

The BMW seat belt tensioner has been replaced once already and needs it again. It gets weak quickly and I'm faced with pushing a wet noodle back into the slot. My two years older and 65K more miles driven S70's seat belt tensioner is still pulling that belt in like it's brand new. The only problems - only - that I have had with the S70 is having to clean the ECU once, and the dreaded left side hood mechanism occasionally not wanting to unlatch. Guess I've been really lucky.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Adam H.</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I happen to be one of the few who does his own maintenance and I check my oil often. There is very little plastic actually holding the handle to the metal shaft of the dipstick and the gasket was in perfect condition. It is just not very well made.<p>I think you missed the basis for the posting. I am getting very disturbed by the ongoing issues with these vehicles. When you not only have larger more expensive repairs, and yet are plagued by small pain in the butt issues it begins to push your buttons. These are expensive cars and you would expect a level of quality that exceeds that of a Ford Escort. <p>I am only fortunate that I have been able to do all of the repairs myself to date except for the warrantee items on the XC90.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Adam, I do feel your pain...really I do. However I've had 23 cars now in my life and still ultimately come back to the Volvo name plate. <p>FWIW: I did not miss the basis for the posting...I understand exactly where you are going with it and also the direction in which you were coming from. You're upset because the car takes more TLC than a Honda but to me it seems that you have overlooked the benefits in spite of the maintenance requirements. In fact you sound just like my parents...they love their Honda so much that they never drive it! Why don't they ever drive the Honda you ask? Simple...because they love their Volvo V70 more. Sure it's more expensive to operate than the vanilla accord, but they enjoy it. It has a personality and style of its own...not to mention enough get-up and go to bring a smile to their faces. The cost for that? Priceless!<p>Maybe you sould ask yourself why you purchased a car like this in the first place? I have never seen a report indicating that Volvos were low maintenance...so did you do any research before hopping in? Look, I'm not going to hector you about your post...but in a way I do feel personally insulted when posts like this come up. To me it sounds like every one else on all of the other European fourms and even the Honda forums. All cars have issues and you have to make a trade off in order to get what you want. Volvo has a distinct flavour...consider it a mild spice. If you eat someting with spice and you get heart-burn as a result...who is to blame?<p>Ack, I'm done ranting now. Guess this sorta thing just rubs me the wrong way is all.<p>Cheers,<br>Prospero<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is the beauty of Volvo ownership. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Small items (and a few large ones, break). With good maintenance Volvos will last a very long time but there most definitely are some issues, (stuff fails that shouldn't fail and other assorted little goodies crap out that can try a person's patience)<br>That being said, a well maintained Volvo at 150K feels more of less like it did at 60K. I don't know too many other cars that can make that claim.<br>If you want freedom from repairs in general, buy Japanese, drive a boring car</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> 100% with JRL there.<br>I also think that with most cars, no matter the make, there are always a few people who are unlucky and seem to get several cars with problems...
 

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About the dipstick. I had this break on my '98 V70 AWD. I had the dealer replace mine when it was in for other service. It is a newer design that is stronger.
 

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I had mine break at the plastic ring at the top. Super glue fixed it, at least temporarily. That was 10 months ago.
 
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