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While researching the QBM strutbar conversion, I came-across the captioned on QBM's site:<p><A HREF="http://www.quickbrickmotorsports.com/prod_camtool.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.quickbrickmotorspor....html</A><p>Did a quick Google search on SS and it does not appear this has been discussed here previously. Have any R owners (stock or otherwise) made camshaft timing adjustments with this tool? If so, did you generally advance or retard timing? Effect on the powerband?<p>Here are the pics from dyno runs (on a "stock turbo car" - unsure of which one) they did which show the impact of changing the cam timing:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.quickbrickmotorsports.com/images/prod_camtoolhp.gif" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.quickbrickmotorsports.com/images/prod_camtooltorque.gif" BORDER="0"><p>TIA,<p>moddeR
 

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Re: QBM Adjustable Camshaft Timing Tool (moddeR)

<br>Don't think this would work on our cars...they have double variable valve timing if I'm not mistaken.
 

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Thanks Joe but here is a blurb from their website:<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Q: My car has variable valve timing (VVT). Will I be able to benefit from the QBM Camshaft Timing Tool?<br>A: On models with single VVT, only one camshaft is controlled by VVT - the other is not controlled by VVT and stays static. The static camshaft is the one that can benefit from the QBM Camshaft Timing Tool.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sorry for the ignorance but does the R have "single VVT"?<p>moddeR
 

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That's a risky tool... I believe somebody on the VS forums detonated their engine messing with the timing.<p>Should have a professional do it on a dyno...
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>moddeR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks Joe but here is a blurb from their website:<p>Sorry for the ignorance but does the R have "single VVT"?<p>moddeR</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I believe they have double VVT. <p>What that means is that it has variable valve timing on both the intake and exhaust camshafts. <p>IIRC, non-R's have it on the intake cams only.<p>It is a risky tool if you don't know what the hell you're doing.
 

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Re: QBM Adjustable Camshaft Timing Tool (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is a risky tool if you don't know what the hell you're doing. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>And I have officially decided against this mod...<p>Thanks for the input!<p>moddeR
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>legbend</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's a risky tool... I believe somebody on the VS forums detonated their engine messing with the timing.<p>Should have a professional do it on a dyno...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Er, not really.....he fitted the tool, ran into some kind of problem and proceded to start the car with the bolts OUT of the cam gear. Yeah...that kind of led to an issue with bent valves.<p>I have the QBM cam tool and I like it, you can shift around the powerband a little and figure out the optimal settings. Of course I have an 850 and as mentioned it wont work on an R which has both intake an exhaust cam VT
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>legbend</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's a risky tool... I believe somebody on the VS forums detonated their engine messing with the timing.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Although it was very unfortunate that happened and I felt terrible for the guy (he is a really nice guy), your statement is not true. While he did trash his engine messing with the timing, it was not our timing tool that was at fault. You can blow your engine by removing the timing colver and wedging a screwdriver into the gear and starting your car. If you do that, it is not the screwdriver's fault.<p>The gentleman that trashed his engine did not read the instructions at all and was in a hurry. He did not loosen the camshaft bolts all of the way before trying to rotate the camshaft using the tool. Then he put so much force on it he sheared the welded nut right off the tool (since the cam was not loose). Then he panicked and removed the tool and ALL of the bolts from his camshafts (i.e. the bolts holding the camshaft pulley to the camshaft) and STARTED HIS ENGINE - blowing his head of course.<p>Here's his own words:<p><I>"I thought i had it back in time. As per the website that you linked about replacing the timing belt, I got the TDC's matched with the "V's", and I put the bolts back in. I tried to crank the car again, but it was doing the same thing as before, where it cranks and cranks, but never quite starts up.<p><B>And no, this was not Slater's fault by any means, I was just tired and not paying attention to the work I was doing."</B><p>"Yep, this is what happened, I tightened it too tight and I wasn't turning the cam. <B>Completely my fault, and it wasn't anything defective with the product at all.</B> If I decide to do this in the future, then we'll work something out. Right now I'm just worried about whether or not I bent any valves. Like I said before, I would think I would hear it if I bent something in the engine."<p>"I might just be better off getting it towed off to the mechanic so that he can see what is going on with it. What are we looking at in terms of best/worst case scenario. <B>I want to stress again for people that read this that this has nothing to do with the workmanship of Slater's wheel, and what happened was entirely my fault. I hope that people are not deterred from purchasing Slater's product as a result from this.</B>"<p>"The bolts were completely out of the intake cam gear when I started the car.<p>I just spoke to slater on the phone, and he was unbelievably nice. He was willing to send me a new wheel, but as I see it, I screwed up, so he shouldn't have to lose any revenue for <br>I am hoping I didn't tear up too much of my engine. I am going to get the car towed to my volvo shop on monday, and hopefully get it taken care of."</I><p>Here's the threads if you want to read them:<p><A HREF="http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=34255&view=findpost&p=415657" TARGET="_blank">http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum...15657</A><p><A HREF="http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=34255&view=findpost&p=415679" TARGET="_blank">http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum...15679</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>legbend</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Should have a professional do it on a dyno...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>As with any modification, that is good advice if you are not comfortable working on cars. With that said, the timing cover is held on by 1 bolt and the cams 3 bolts. Theoretically if you can read instructions and follow them and can use a wrench to loosen and tighten a few bolts, you can install and use the timing wheel. When you DON'T read instructions is when you get into trouble. That goes for a lot of things, not just our timing wheel.<p>As the first line of the instructions says, "If you do not possess the necessary tools or knowledge to install this product, seek the assistance of a professional mechanic."<p>However, I have sold a LOT of these wheels with no one else having issues like what happened above. In fact, most people are very pleased with the results. Norbert Kist on VS gained an ungodly amount of power tuning his camshafts. This was on top of a 19T upgrade, ECU tune, etc.<p>FInally, in response to the original question, it depends on the year of your vehicle. When Volvo transitioned to VVT, they only used it on one cam for a few years until the technology was perfected. On some models only the intake cam is VVT. On others it's only the exhaust cam that is VVT. Now the newest vehicles have VVT on both cams.<p>So to answer the question it depends on whether your car has VVT on one cam ot both cams. If it's one, you can use the wheel on the other cam. If you have VVT on both obviously you cannot use our timing wheel.
 

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Sorry, I wasn't trying to give the impression that the tool was flawed... just that messing with the timing without knowing what you're doing was probably a bad idea... my apologies.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>legbend</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry, I wasn't trying to give the impression that the tool was flawed... just that messing with the timing without knowing what you're doing was... my apologies.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's OK. No offense taken.<p>I just wanted to clarify what really happened.<p>And you are completely right. If you don't know what you are doing with ANY mod, it is best left to someone who does.
 

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Regarding T belts and interference motors... the 1 st tooth off is free add $1000.00 each additional tooth off <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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hi. i was wondering if this adjustable camshaft timing tool from QBM would work on my car - a 2001 S60 T5 auto (geartronic). anyone tried it on a similar car ?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe they have double VVT. <p>What that means is that it has variable valve timing on both the intake and exhaust camshafts. <p>IIRC, non-R's have it on the intake cams only.<p>It is a risky tool if you don't know what the hell you're doing. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>yes i think you are right.<p>im fine with letting the ECU determine its valve control.
 
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