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Does anyone have their S60 pulling in various directions<br>You would think its the cracks in the road but there are none and the same stretch again will not do it.<p>Its purely random.<br>If you left the wheel, you would see it suddenly move right or left. Its quite a pull because you struggle at times to keep it straight.<p>Its not an issue as such, just annoying. Thanks
 

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Re: Pulling in directions (Akash)

There must be something loose in the chassis. Sounds dangerous.<br>A worn out joint, or really something disconnected. Take it to an alignment shop to check the joints and to do 4 wheel alignment. Out of whack rear alignment causes weird feelings too.<p>But small road imperfections can pull steering quite suddenly with wide tires even if everything is okay.<br>
 

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Re: Pulling in directions (Akash)

If everything checks out ok at a dealer, could just be tires that "tramline" alot, especially if heavy trucks have worn some "impressions" into the lanes. Try getting some new ones - I recommend Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
 

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I'm glad you posted this, I'm having the exact same problem right now with my S60R. It happens only once in a while, and it will appear as a gentle but persistent tug to the left or right. With hands on the wheel it's not serious, but as mentioned if you let go of the wheel it will actually veer you off course.<p>From repeated trials, it really does not appear to be tramlining. It's happening on more or less smooth, rutless roads, sometimes after a small bump if I recall correctly. I was thinking it might have something to do with the 4C, but it may not be. I have to tkae the car in next week for servicing anyways so I will have them check this out and let you know what they say.<p>gb
 

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Sounds like you guys need a trip to the alignment shop. You might not have enough toe in on your front tires.
 

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grimmbob, I'll probably let you know sooner, mines going in on wednesday for a brake assist service message so I'll bring it up then.<p>I doubt its the 4c as I dont have it on mine (standard s60 d5).<p>What I noticed yesterday was that It happened even at almost standstill (literally crawling when stopping for instance). So I suspect its not the way we drive. I cant think its my tyres as I would have thought it would be brand new when I got the car (2 weeks ago) but I'll check.<p>Glad in a twisted way you're having the issue but I'm sure you know how I meant to say that <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I'll let you know on wed how things go
 

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If it were an alignment problem wouldn't it be consistent? Right now it is an intermittent issue, not consistent at all. The car tracks straight and true almost all of the time, just once in a while it will do this little tug. <p>I'm also getting the clicking in the front axle, don't know if it's related to that in any way, the axle splines.<p>In a way it almost worries me more that it is an intermittent issue, in that it could be something loose or malfunctioning that could all of a sudden "go" and make for a really ugly situation.<p>And for me, I've only noticed it from speeds around 50Km/h to 70 Km/h; it has never happened when I have been at higher speeds. I have noticed it at very low speeds once or twice though, as Akash mentioned.<p>I think I'm actually going in Wednesday as well, we'll compare notes afterwards!<p>BTW, interesting that this is happening on a brand new car as well, mine has about 9,000 miles on it and the issue has only started about a week ago for me. But this happening on a new vehicle points possibly to an electronic issue? I wouldn't think it would be somthing wearing out on a brand new vehicle.<p>gb
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>grimmbob</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If it were an alignment problem wouldn't it be consistent? <br>gb</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You can be effected more often by inperfections in the road if the front wheels are not aligned. The other reason would be a bent rod...but I would think you would feel that all the time.
 

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Also, check your lugs. I had the front lugs on my driver side come loose one time after failing to torque them down good. I had intermedent pulls, clicking and a vibration at 40+ speeds. I also had clicking out of the brakes until I tighten it back down. Just something I thought about after you said problems around 50km/h and 70km/h.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KillerB</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, check your lugs. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Will do this in addition to having them check alignment and bearings. Thanks for the input all!<p>gb<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by grimmbob at 4:17 PM 8-7-2006</i>
 

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Does the pull stop when you back off the throttle? I've noticed my S60 T5 will pull in one direction or the other sometimes, and throttle does have an effect. Thanks, FWD. <p>I think the next car will be RWD with a stick...FWD with auto is weird dynamically, specially with lotsa power
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MAProTulz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does the pull stop when you back off the throttle? I've noticed my S60 T5 will pull in one direction or the other sometimes, and throttle does have an effect. Thanks, FWD. I think the next car will be RWD with a stick...FWD with auto is weird dynamically, specially with lotsa power</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Isn't this just additional torque steer? A small price to pay, I think... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Got the car back yesterday and I was told as Dary said... its normal behaviour.<p>Normally I wouldnt believe it but I was given a V70 as a loan car which has 7000 miles (jan 06 model) and that too suffered from it.<p>Maybe grimmbob has more news?
 

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Unfortunately, no news here... They said it's normal, and that it was likely a combination of agressive suspension and tires. Obviously it can't really be that because the standard S60 isn't sprung as agressively as the R, nor are the tires the same. However, that was as good as it got sadly. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"><p>gb
 

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Right, it is torque steer, and it sucks. It's a BIG price to pay. Only high powered FWD platforms suffer from torque steer anymore. Go drive a BMW 3 series and then tell me that the torque steer is a "small price to pay".
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KillerB</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like you guys need a trip to the alignment shop. You might not have enough toe in on your front tires.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>haha i was about to type that before i read your post.<p>only because of the fact that you say its random, i agree with this fix. and get it done soon before you start wearing out other components.
 

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It's definitely NOT torque steer... I used to own an Eagle Talon Turbo (back in '93), and THAT had torque steer. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> Also, mine is AWD (albeit with a FWD bias, but not under hard accleration). This does not occur under hard acceleration, it usually occurs at lower speeds, not neccessarily with any acceleration at all.<p>Alignment is starting to sound like a likely culprit, I'll see if I can locate a trustworthy shop in the area.<p>Checked my tire pressure today also, and the front and rear lefts were a fair bit lower than they should have been; I'll see if that fixes things too.<p>gb
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MAProTulz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right, it is torque steer, and it sucks. It's a BIG price to pay. Only high powered FWD platforms suffer from torque steer anymore. Go drive a BMW 3 series and then tell me that the torque steer is a "small price to pay". </TD></TR></TABLE><p>torque steer doesn't occur at random.
 
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