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luckily i own both volvo and a subaru<p><A HREF="http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/13/video-volvo-vs-subaru-awd" TARGET="_blank">http://www.leftlanenews.com/20...u-awd</A>/
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (yerrow)

Wonder if the result would have been different if they'd turned off the traction control on the Volvo. It's odd that the driver side rear wheel didn't spin at all. The Subi doesn't even have traction control.<p>-Eric
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (yerrow)

i thought the volvo system is based more on how much gas your giving it, like more power is transfered to the rear when u give it more gas. i dunno what year he was using though, but i think he would have gotten better results if he put the peddal down more <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> maybe not though.
 

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Seems to me there is something WRONG with the XC70... I had one and it never did that off road or in the snow... all wheels spin, seems like haldex is just not working on that car. Maybe they pulled the haldex fuse LOL.
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (sk11vengeance)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sk11vengeance</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought the volvo system is based more on how much gas your giving it, like more power is transfered to the rear when u give it more gas. i dunno what year he was using though, but i think he would have gotten better results if he put the peddal down more <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> maybe not though.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yes..and no<p>our system is a variable AWD dependent upon load, and can vary as much as 95% front 5% rear all the way to 30% front 70% rear. the subaru is full-time symmetrical. having that said, i thought that our system should be a little more stable than what was displayed. i assume the same haldex setup is used for the s60/v70 as it is the v70xc. <p>
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (phuz)

It almost looks as though they had the haldex deactivated - this also probably belongs in the XC70 forum, as only an idiot would try any of that with an R.
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (yerrow)

This is old, and I think people had said that the AWD was off. <p>It is clear from watching it that the rear wheels were not given ANY power since it didn't spin at all.
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (phuz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>phuz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>yes..and no<p>our system is a variable AWD dependent upon load, and can vary as much as 95% front 5% rear all the way to 30% front 70% rear. the subaru is full-time symmetrical. having that said, i thought that our system should be a little more stable than what was displayed. i assume the same haldex setup is used for the s60/v70 as it is the v70xc. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>This XC is the old Visco style AWD system.<p>Yes it is inferior but something is wrong in this video, like the guy is lifting throttle the moment the rear comes in. The Viscco needed a considerable speed difference between front and rear to activate.
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (yerrow)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>yerrow</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">luckily i own both volvo and a subaru<p><A HREF="http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/13/video-volvo-vs-subaru-awd" TARGET="_blank">http://www.leftlanenews.com/20...u-awd</A>/</TD></TR></TABLE><p>OLD video (do a search here, it has been discussed to death); something WAS done to the XC70. I have never seen an XC70 get stuck like this on a hill of that sort. We have taken XC70s on steeper hills and with as much mud or a lot deeper snow. The car was up with great ease.<p>We were in Colorado, last year, and they had us drive an XC90 through muddy hills (steeper than what is shown on this idiotic video) and also at a specially made course where the XC70 had two wheels up in the air while the 3rd wheel was barely touching the ground. Car never got stuck.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (Johann)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>This XC is the old Visco style AWD system.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Doesn't the Legacy use a VC system, too? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> And yes, there is a LOT MORE wrong in that video than just "something".<p>Yannis
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (yerrow)

Inferior? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I don't even need All Season tires to clear those.<br>I'm rolling on 18" Pegs with Dunlop DZ101 and the same V.C. AWD........ <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.dunlop.ca/dunlopca/graphics/Tires/full/DIRDZ101.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://clie.ws/bbs/uploads/post-35482-1147013765.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://clie.ws/bbs/uploads/post-23830-1146941327.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://clie.ws/bbs/uploads/post-23830-1146941055.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://clie.ws/bbs/uploads/post-23830-1146941315.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://clie.ws/bbs/uploads/post-23830-1146941306.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Same course with other XC90:<br> <A HREF="http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8050" TARGET="_blank">http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/...=8050</A>
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (024tnfi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>024tnfi</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Inferior? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I don't even need All Season tires to clear those.<br>I'm rolling on 18" Pegs with Dunlop DZ101 and the same V.C. AWD........ <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.dunlop.ca/dunlopca/graphics/Tires/full/DIRDZ101.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://clie.ws/bbs/uploads/post-35482-1147013765.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I am so glad you posted pictures as the attacks from the Volvo haters were sure to come, after my replies.<p>The video (or whatever happened during the videotaping) has definitely been doctored.<p>The XC70 has tremendous traction capabilities...and did not win that infamous Mud Competition before the XC90 came out? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Yannis
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (yerrow)

I take my mothers 1999 XC AWD (yes, 1999) up our snow-covered driveway of about the same grade multiple times every winter...if it is viscos you need to give it at least some gas. When it is really bad I hit the gas and the rear goes tail-out M3 style so the power definately gets back there. It has never gotten stuck. That XC looked more like what happens when I try to take my S40 up the same driveway when it is snow covered.
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (GrecianVolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GrecianVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I am so glad you posted pictures as the attacks from the Volvo haters were sure to come, after my replies.<br>Yannis</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No sweat. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>FYI, Just make sure you remove the Exhaust Bracket before you attempt what I did. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (024tnfi)

Hi, I'm new at the Forum so could you please tell me more about "18" Pegs". I'm intrigued. Thanks. Oh, I have a 2006 XC70.
 

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Re: proof our AWD system is inferior. (misterdk)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>misterdk</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could you please tell me more about "18" Pegs". I'm intrigued.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>They are the optional wheels on the S60R/V70R in the U.S. Standard is 17". <br>Much better handling versus the 16" stock Tellus/Xenia/Erinius on the XC70.<br>Ride quality is slightly stiffer. But that's how I like it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>You can check on volvoxc.com for more info on wheels for your new XC70. <br>Good Luck!!<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.volvoxc.com/volvo_photo_gallery/albums/userpics/75kbresizeDSC03099.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.volvoxc.com/volvo_photo_gallery/albums/userpics/75kbresizeDSC03108.jpg" BORDER="0">
 
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