As some of you might know, I have been working on some supreme trickery to make a fully functional projector retrofit for our cars that will not set off all of the holiday lights on the cluster and still work with our suspension/leveling/whatever systems.<p>I have been jumping from project to project and have had the bracket marked and ready to cut to shape for my first true test fit, but have not gotten the motivation to have small shards of aluminum splattered across my 'workshop.' Reading everyone's 'doom and gloom' about the R lamps in the "Ask VCNA" thread, I wonder, how much interest is there REALLY?<p>The idea is simple - take out the whole DRL housing and internal 'bracket' from the factory headlamp, detach all of the headlamp internals, replace most of them onto a CNC'ed plate that will re-attach to factory mounting points, and affix a fancy bi-xenon projector. If you are feeling fancy, you can do some Bondo work to the silver 'shroud' inside the lamp, or some other sort of visual modification to hide the new innards.<p>That being said, once the lamp is off the car and the glass is separated from the housing (that's the tricky part), the rest would be very simple and 'plug and play.' How many folks would be interested in actually buying a 'kit' to do this themselves? How much would you be willing to pay?<p>The only caveat, at the moment as I have not addressed the issue at all (not meaning that it can't be done) is that the DRL would be disconnected. If I do make further progress, I can most likely find a way to fit a bulb (or resistor) to accommodate the DRL?<p><br>
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Re: Projector Retrofit - How Much Interest is There Really? (AthruC)
I'd pay $250 for the kit including the glass lens.
I'd pay $250 for the kit including the glass lens.
Re: Projector Retrofit - How Much Interest is There Really? (skibum0627)
There would be no glass lens (it'd be your old one - which isn't available in the US as a serviceable part, and is $250/ea side from ViVA)... it would a kit w/ a projector (and bulbs maybe) to replace your headlamp innards.
There would be no glass lens (it'd be your old one - which isn't available in the US as a serviceable part, and is $250/ea side from ViVA)... it would a kit w/ a projector (and bulbs maybe) to replace your headlamp innards.
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Re: Projector Retrofit - How Much Interest is There Really? (FEO)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FEO</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there an option for folks like me who don't feel comfortable taking apart the expensive lamps?<p>maybe use a donor set to do swaps ala MightyQ gauge?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It sounds very interesting but like FEO, I don't feel like slicing up lamps either (go ahead call me chicken).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FEO</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there an option for folks like me who don't feel comfortable taking apart the expensive lamps?<p>maybe use a donor set to do swaps ala MightyQ gauge?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It sounds very interesting but like FEO, I don't feel like slicing up lamps either (go ahead call me chicken).
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Re: Projector Retrofit - How Much Interest is There Really? (AthruC)
A simple download for 05-07's removes the DRL function <B>and the error message.</B><br>2004's are a different story <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
A simple download for 05-07's removes the DRL function <B>and the error message.</B><br>2004's are a different story <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
Re: Projector Retrofit - How Much Interest is There Really? (JRL)
I posted a question in the IPD forum if they would be able to source the high beam parts from the euro headlights directly from Valeo. If they, or anyone else could do this and rebuild the headlights, it seems that this would be the easiest solution. Then all you would need to do is go to the dealer and get the software for the euro headlamps. This is just a thought, I have no idea if it can acutally be done.
I posted a question in the IPD forum if they would be able to source the high beam parts from the euro headlights directly from Valeo. If they, or anyone else could do this and rebuild the headlights, it seems that this would be the easiest solution. Then all you would need to do is go to the dealer and get the software for the euro headlamps. This is just a thought, I have no idea if it can acutally be done.
Re: Projector Retrofit - How Much Interest is There Really? (I Roll)
Volvo owns the tooling for these lamps - that will not happen in the foreseeable future (through the front door at least)...<p>MightyQ was offering his services to 'chrome' the housing. It's not the same pattern, but it's a vast improvement. The wiring is as simple as a splice.
Volvo owns the tooling for these lamps - that will not happen in the foreseeable future (through the front door at least)...<p>MightyQ was offering his services to 'chrome' the housing. It's not the same pattern, but it's a vast improvement. The wiring is as simple as a splice.
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Re: Projector Retrofit - How Much Interest is There Really? (AthruC)
<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AthruC</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As some of you might know, I have been working on some supreme trickery to make a fully functional projector retrofit for our cars that will not set off all of the holiday lights on the cluster and still work with our suspension/leveling/whatever systems.<p>I have been jumping from project to project and have had the bracket marked and ready to cut to shape for my first true test fit, but have not gotten the motivation to have small shards of aluminum splattered across my 'workshop.' Reading everyone's 'doom and gloom' about the R lamps in the "Ask VCNA" thread, I wonder, how much interest is there REALLY?<p>The idea is simple - take out the whole DRL housing and internal 'bracket' from the factory headlamp, detach all of the headlamp internals, replace most of them onto a CNC'ed plate that will re-attach to factory mounting points, and affix a fancy bi-xenon projector. If you are feeling fancy, you can do some Bondo work to the silver 'shroud' inside the lamp, or some other sort of visual modification to hide the new innards.<p>That being said, once the lamp is off the car and the glass is separated from the housing (that's the tricky part), the rest would be very simple and 'plug and play.' How many folks would be interested in actually buying a 'kit' to do this themselves? How much would you be willing to pay?<p>The only caveat, at the moment as I have not addressed the issue at all (not meaning that it can't be done) is that the DRL would be disconnected. If I do make further progress, I can most likely find a way to fit a bulb (or resistor) to accommodate the DRL?<p><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well prity boy, I mean my friend!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Im down and if you need any thing you know i got you my friend!! and im down. I have an extra set of DRL housings, but i was thinking about trying to remettleize it my self well actule with Xman03 haha<br>I do have 1 or 2 fog projectors witch might be a right sive
<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AthruC</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As some of you might know, I have been working on some supreme trickery to make a fully functional projector retrofit for our cars that will not set off all of the holiday lights on the cluster and still work with our suspension/leveling/whatever systems.<p>I have been jumping from project to project and have had the bracket marked and ready to cut to shape for my first true test fit, but have not gotten the motivation to have small shards of aluminum splattered across my 'workshop.' Reading everyone's 'doom and gloom' about the R lamps in the "Ask VCNA" thread, I wonder, how much interest is there REALLY?<p>The idea is simple - take out the whole DRL housing and internal 'bracket' from the factory headlamp, detach all of the headlamp internals, replace most of them onto a CNC'ed plate that will re-attach to factory mounting points, and affix a fancy bi-xenon projector. If you are feeling fancy, you can do some Bondo work to the silver 'shroud' inside the lamp, or some other sort of visual modification to hide the new innards.<p>That being said, once the lamp is off the car and the glass is separated from the housing (that's the tricky part), the rest would be very simple and 'plug and play.' How many folks would be interested in actually buying a 'kit' to do this themselves? How much would you be willing to pay?<p>The only caveat, at the moment as I have not addressed the issue at all (not meaning that it can't be done) is that the DRL would be disconnected. If I do make further progress, I can most likely find a way to fit a bulb (or resistor) to accommodate the DRL?<p><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well prity boy, I mean my friend!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Im down and if you need any thing you know i got you my friend!! and im down. I have an extra set of DRL housings, but i was thinking about trying to remettleize it my self well actule with Xman03 haha<br>I do have 1 or 2 fog projectors witch might be a right sive
Re: Projector Retrofit - How Much Interest is There Really? (AthruC)
So what would the final headlights look like? If the DRLs are replaced by bi-xenon projectors, what would happen with the existing xenon reflectors? <p>Are you saying that the final result would have two sets of xenons - bi-xenon projectors and reflectors?<p>I would have to know more but I may be interested if you can fit some TL projectors in there (I know they are really big but I still like to dream).
So what would the final headlights look like? If the DRLs are replaced by bi-xenon projectors, what would happen with the existing xenon reflectors? <p>Are you saying that the final result would have two sets of xenons - bi-xenon projectors and reflectors?<p>I would have to know more but I may be interested if you can fit some TL projectors in there (I know they are really big but I still like to dream).
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John at SharpHID has bulb out packages... Its a little plug in thing that removes the warning.<p>I was gonna try it, but haven't had the chance or the need to. Check it out!
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if you had an 05 i cauld do it right in Vida. But when i was doin Xman03 a favor i desided to disable his DRls in VIda and i wouldnt let me fully i cauld olny make the disabled at night but during day theye were on. Now it was a saterday and i wanted to go home so i didnt spend a lot of time trying<br>Xman03- 2004 S60R
if you had an 05 i cauld do it right in Vida. But when i was doin Xman03 a favor i desided to disable his DRls in VIda and i wouldnt let me fully i cauld olny make the disabled at night but during day theye were on. Now it was a saterday and i wanted to go home so i didnt spend a lot of time trying<br>Xman03- 2004 S60R
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i'd be interested for sure depending on how it looks/functions. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>i'm debating euro lights but can't justify the expense right now. I actually like the drl-I don't like how useless it is. i like it as i don't ever have to remember to turn lights on in cases where it pretty light out yet some road spray. been pulled over for using wipers without headlights on. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> 10am in the morning because of road spray <p>So.....<br>I'd ideally like drl replacement that functioned as a high beam but yet stayed on (dimmed) as a normal drl. or if others could turn it off via software download if that is what they prefer.<p>In one of the euro light threads, Jim Lill outlined how the euro lights could have drl functionality along with the true high beam operation. I was going to do it but the thought of ordering the euro lights and slicing them open right away seemed daunting. Other mods have come first.<p>here is that thread: <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=18370" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=18370</A><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLIll</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Full replacement with Euro headlamps is by far the easiest. I can provide details on how to make the inner high beam boost lamps on the euro into reduced intensity DRL.<br>If someone knows how to get the VADIS work done to make the HID be the full-time DRL, you don't even need that. Just a subtle rewire. This same wiring approach would work for the modified quasi-Euro version.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>
i'd be interested for sure depending on how it looks/functions. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>i'm debating euro lights but can't justify the expense right now. I actually like the drl-I don't like how useless it is. i like it as i don't ever have to remember to turn lights on in cases where it pretty light out yet some road spray. been pulled over for using wipers without headlights on. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> 10am in the morning because of road spray <p>So.....<br>I'd ideally like drl replacement that functioned as a high beam but yet stayed on (dimmed) as a normal drl. or if others could turn it off via software download if that is what they prefer.<p>In one of the euro light threads, Jim Lill outlined how the euro lights could have drl functionality along with the true high beam operation. I was going to do it but the thought of ordering the euro lights and slicing them open right away seemed daunting. Other mods have come first.<p>here is that thread: <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=18370" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=18370</A><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLIll</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Full replacement with Euro headlamps is by far the easiest. I can provide details on how to make the inner high beam boost lamps on the euro into reduced intensity DRL.<br>If someone knows how to get the VADIS work done to make the HID be the full-time DRL, you don't even need that. Just a subtle rewire. This same wiring approach would work for the modified quasi-Euro version.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>atacamaR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I'd ideally like drl replacement that functioned as a high beam but yet stayed on (dimmed) as a normal drl. or if others could turn it off via software download if that is what they prefer.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>In VIDA one of the settings for headlights/drls is that the headlights are on all the time. You activate this setting and not have to worry about the high beam/drl replacement.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>atacamaR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I'd ideally like drl replacement that functioned as a high beam but yet stayed on (dimmed) as a normal drl. or if others could turn it off via software download if that is what they prefer.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>In VIDA one of the settings for headlights/drls is that the headlights are on all the time. You activate this setting and not have to worry about the high beam/drl replacement.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>I Roll</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>In VIDA one of the settings for headlights/drls is that the headlights are on all the time. You activate this setting and not have to worry about the high beam/drl replacement.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>good to know but i wouldn't want the headlights on all the time. just a drl 'replacement' that acts like a drl during the day and at night functions as a True high beam as supplement to current bi-xenons. -->this is just my opinion on a retrofit. if someone doesn't want the drl aspect I assume using the euro download it could be eliminated.<p>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>I Roll</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>In VIDA one of the settings for headlights/drls is that the headlights are on all the time. You activate this setting and not have to worry about the high beam/drl replacement.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>good to know but i wouldn't want the headlights on all the time. just a drl 'replacement' that acts like a drl during the day and at night functions as a True high beam as supplement to current bi-xenons. -->this is just my opinion on a retrofit. if someone doesn't want the drl aspect I assume using the euro download it could be eliminated.<p>
Re: Projector Retrofit - How Much Interest is There Really? (AthruC)
I could be down with one of your kits, LMK if you need a BETA tester <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
I could be down with one of your kits, LMK if you need a BETA tester <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
Re: Re: (I Roll)
I was going to have a bi-xenon projector go where the current low/high would go now. My thoughts for a "DRL" were to use 1-3 high power white LED's and drive them using the 'base' as a heat sink. If they didn't draw enough juice, I'd throw in a resistor or two.<p>The other ideas were to use just a standard filament bulb and have a 'glow' inside the housing, or hook up a halogen bulb in some sort of reflector or projector. Not at that stage yet though.
I was going to have a bi-xenon projector go where the current low/high would go now. My thoughts for a "DRL" were to use 1-3 high power white LED's and drive them using the 'base' as a heat sink. If they didn't draw enough juice, I'd throw in a resistor or two.<p>The other ideas were to use just a standard filament bulb and have a 'glow' inside the housing, or hook up a halogen bulb in some sort of reflector or projector. Not at that stage yet though.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AthruC</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was going to have a bi-xenon projector go where the current low/high would go now. My thoughts for a "DRL" were to use 1-3 high power white LED's and drive them using the 'base' as a heat sink. If they didn't draw enough juice, I'd throw in a resistor or two.<p>The other ideas were to use just a standard filament bulb and have a 'glow' inside the housing, or hook up a halogen bulb in some sort of reflector or projector. Not at that stage yet though.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>sounds very promising, when it eventually gets to that point--> be interested to see it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>if it improves the current lights and looks just as good or better, I'm sure it won't be a problem selling them provided the price isn't out of hand or if the modification isn't too complex. everyone here isn't particularly impressed with stock units.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AthruC</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was going to have a bi-xenon projector go where the current low/high would go now. My thoughts for a "DRL" were to use 1-3 high power white LED's and drive them using the 'base' as a heat sink. If they didn't draw enough juice, I'd throw in a resistor or two.<p>The other ideas were to use just a standard filament bulb and have a 'glow' inside the housing, or hook up a halogen bulb in some sort of reflector or projector. Not at that stage yet though.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>sounds very promising, when it eventually gets to that point--> be interested to see it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>if it improves the current lights and looks just as good or better, I'm sure it won't be a problem selling them provided the price isn't out of hand or if the modification isn't too complex. everyone here isn't particularly impressed with stock units.
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