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We've all heard about Senator McCain the war hero, but we really don't know that much about Senator McCain the man, other than that he and his first wife divorced after he returned from Vietnam, him, scarred by the VietCong captors; her, scarred by a terrible car accident.<p>Here's an article to get us started.<p><A HREF="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem....html</A><p><I>Carol insists she remains on good terms with her ex-husband, who agreed as part of their divorce settlement to pay her medical costs for life. ‘I have no bitterness,’<p>she says. ‘My accident is well recorded. I had 23 operations, I am five inches shorter than I used to be and I was in hospital for six months. It was just awful, but it wasn’t the reason for my divorce. </I><p><br>
 

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Re: President McCain's bona fides (adp)

<A HREF="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jbMJjet6b8h0zDODn4g28m-qatawD92RFGL04" TARGET="_blank">Cindy McCain's half sister: "I'm voting for Obama"</A> <p>You know they are neocons by the way they covers their tracks.
 

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Judging by all the hit job threads/posts...many of you folks on here are truly concerned about McCain's chances of winning <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: President McCain's bona fides (2k2S80t6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>2k2S80t6</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Judging by all the hit job threads/posts...many of you folks on here are truly concerned about McCain's chances of winning <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Especially since Osama "Your Mamma" Obama doesn't seem to be getting a bump from the convention. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>V70 Brad</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Especially since Osama "Your Mamma" Obama doesn't seem to be getting a bump from the convention. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The latest poll I saw showed Obama's lead increased from 1% to 8% this week. If that isn't a bump, what is?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>waccamatt</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The latest poll I saw showed Obama's lead increased from 1% to 8% this week. If that isn't a bump, what is?</TD></TR></TABLE><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The latest Rasmussen poll is literally a dead heat at 47% each...<br><A HREF="http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/poll-tracker.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.usatoday.com/news/p...r.htm</A>
 

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Re: President McCain's bona fides (2k2S80t6)

<I>Sunday, August 31, 2008 Today’s numbers show a one-point improvement for McCain, but Obama still leads 47% to 44%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 49%, McCain 46% (see recent daily results). Obama is now viewed favorably by 57% of the nation’s voters, McCain by 56%. Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day </I><p><A HREF="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rasmussenreports.co..._poll</A><p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: President McCain's bona fides (2k2S80t6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>2k2S80t6</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Judging by all the hit job threads/posts...many of you folks on here are truly concerned about McCain's chances of winning <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>of COURSE I am concerned about him winning - unlike you, I actually care about this country's future
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>of COURSE I am concerned about him winning - unlike you, I actually care about this country's future</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Judging by your posts, you only care about sitting on a pedestal in debates and being demeaning to others who disagree...oh yea, and conspiracies. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: President McCain's bona fides (2k2S80t6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>2k2S80t6</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Judging by your posts, you only care about sitting on a pedestal in debates and being demeaning to others who disagree...oh yea, and conspiracies. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's not my fault that you can't hold up your end in a debate<p>when I'm wrong, I admit it. When you're wrong, you obfuscate, change your position, ignore the comments, etc.<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>It's not my fault that you can't hold up your end in a debate<p>when I'm wrong, I admit it. When you're wrong, you obfuscate, change your position, ignore the comments, etc.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>How short is your memory? I just conceded to you the other day.<p>That said, I have never, EVER changed my position based on losing an argument. As for obfuscating, if it has happened it isn't purposeful and I would like some examples.<p>Perhaps you wish by launching such accusations, your opponent would just walk away? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: President McCain's bona fides (2k2S80t6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>2k2S80t6</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Judging by all the hit job threads/posts...many of you folks on here are truly concerned about McCain's chances of winning <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I <b>AM</b>. I am not nearly as pro-obama as I come off, I am simply anti-McCain. I think there is a VERY high likelihood he can pull this off and I think it would be VERY bad for the United States.
 

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Re: President McCain's bona fides (2k2S80t6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>2k2S80t6</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>How short is your memory? I just conceded to you the other day. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm sorry - I did forget<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>2k2S80t6</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>That said, I have never, EVER changed my position based on losing an argument. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, we know. The point is, one SHOULD change their position if he is proven wrong.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>2k2S80t6</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Perhaps you wish by launching such accusations, your opponent would just walk away? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have no desire for you to walk away.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Yes, we know. The point is, one SHOULD change their position if he is proven wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>A position is opinion and therefore not subjective to right/wrong. If I mistake a fact, I will absolutely concede same.
 

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Re: President McCain's bona fides (2k2S80t6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>2k2S80t6</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>A position is opinion and therefore not subjective to right/wrong. If I mistake a fact, I will absolutely concede same.</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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