SwedeSpeed - Volvo Performance Forum banner

Premature rear brake wear potentially solved

1 reading
19K views 58 replies 30 participants last post by  trizzuth  
#1 · (Edited)
Hi everyone,
If you've been around here for any amount of time, you are aware that the rear brakes tend to wear quickly on SPA cars (if not, a quick search and you'll find plenty of threads about it). There has been plenty of speculation as to why and usually people claim it is because of Pilot Assist or Lane Keeping Aid but I've never agreed with that. Volvo has introduced a set of springs that come with the pads now that help them retract from the rotor better. These were installed during production in late 2020 and come with the pads as of May 2021. Just thought I'd pass it along.

Keep in mind, I am referring to brake pads that are wearing out. Not vibrating or squeaking. These threads always turn into a mix of people who have had their brakes replaced for three different reasons.

I won't post this in every SPA forum, I'm sure word will spread.
 
#3 ·
Hi everyone,
If you've been around here for any amount of time, you are aware that the rear brakes tend to wear quickly on SPA cars (if not, a quick search and you'll find plenty of threads about it). There has been plenty of speculation as to why and usually people claim it is because of Pilot Assist or Lane Keeping Aid but I've never agreed with that. Volvo has introduced a set of springs that come with the pads now that help them retract from the rotor better. These were installed during production in late 2020 and come with the pads as of May 2021. Just thought I'd pass it along.

Keep in mind, I am referring to brake pads that are wearing out. Not vibrating or squeaking. These threads always turn into a mix of people who have had their brakes replaced for three different reasons.

I won't post this in every SPA forum, I'm sure word will spread.
Thanks for the info. Is it fair to say if I took delivery of my vehicle last November so it's the early 2021 model (apparently there is an early and late) there is little to no chance I got the new springs? Any way to contact Volvo with my VIN to know for sure?
 
#5 ·
Hi everyone,
If you've been around here for any amount of time, you are aware that the rear brakes tend to wear quickly on SPA cars (if not, a quick search and you'll find plenty of threads about it). There has been plenty of speculation as to why and usually people claim it is because of Pilot Assist or Lane Keeping Aid but I've never agreed with that. Volvo has introduced a set of springs that come with the pads now that help them retract from the rotor better. These were installed during production in late 2020 and come with the pads as of May 2021. Just thought I'd pass it along.

Keep in mind, I am referring to brake pads that are wearing out. Not vibrating or squeaking. These threads always turn into a mix of people who have had their brakes replaced for three different reasons.

I won't post this in every SPA forum, I'm sure word will spread.
Would you have/know the part number for these new pads?

Thanks!
 
#6 ·
Hi everyone,
If you've been around here for any amount of time, you are aware that the rear brakes tend to wear quickly on SPA cars (if not, a quick search and you'll find plenty of threads about it). There has been plenty of speculation as to why and usually people claim it is because of Pilot Assist or Lane Keeping Aid but I've never agreed with that. Volvo has introduced a set of springs that come with the pads now that help them retract from the rotor better. These were installed during production in late 2020 and come with the pads as of May 2021. Just thought I'd pass it along.

Keep in mind, I am referring to brake pads that are wearing out. Not vibrating or squeaking. These threads always turn into a mix of people who have had their brakes replaced for three different reasons.

I won't post this in every SPA forum, I'm sure word will spread.
Very interesting. Thanks Tech. And as asked, would you know the part number? I'd like to know if it's compatible with our 2017.

Sent from my SM-G781V using Tapatalk
 
#7 ·
Hi everyone,
If you've been around here for any amount of time, you are aware that the rear brakes tend to wear quickly on SPA cars (if not, a quick search and you'll find plenty of threads about it). There has been plenty of speculation as to why and usually people claim it is because of Pilot Assist or Lane Keeping Aid but I've never agreed with that. Volvo has introduced a set of springs that come with the pads now that help them retract from the rotor better. These were installed during production in late 2020 and come with the pads as of May 2021. Just thought I'd pass it along.

Keep in mind, I am referring to brake pads that are wearing out. Not vibrating or squeaking. These threads always turn into a mix of people who have had their brakes replaced for three different reasons.

I won't post this in every SPA forum, I'm sure word will spread.
I took ownership of my new, factory ordered, 2020 V90 in 6/2020. Just last week, I brought it to the dealer for the first 1 year maintenance, with 7700 miles on the odometer. On a 10 point scale, the tech said my front and rear brakes were in very good condition, rating them a 9. The service writer was surprised, stating that, particularly for the rear brakes, he typically sees a score of 7, or at best, 8.

Sounds like my late 2020 delivered V has the brake springs you mentioned.

PS: At least 50% of my miles are from highway/long distance drives, of which I regularly use Pilot Assist.
 
#9 · (Edited)
There isn't anything more specific with regard to when they were used in production in the TJ (like a structure week or chassis number). It just says:

"These updated pads w/"springs" were introduced in production late 2020.
These updated pads then became available as spare parts in May 2021."

So I couldn't say when specifically they were used.

As for the part number, I'm not sure the part number for the pads changed. Just what's in the box changed to include a set of the springs. This is for all SPA cars, not just model year 2020 and on. I've already done a couple sets. The pads look the same as they always did.
 
#10 ·
Has anyone purchase this part recently that came with the spring?

I guess, since it is a somewhat recent change, it will be luck of the draw depending on the newer or older inventory from the dealer / OEM parts provider wether you get the new part with the spring of the older one without it…

If anyone get this part with the springs, would you please be so kind to share where you purchased it from?
 
#11 ·
Thanks for the info! I'll be doing the front and rear brakes this month, is it safe to assume that if the springs are in the box, then this is the new/revised set?
 
#13 ·
Hi everyone,
If you've been around here for any amount of time, you are aware that the rear brakes tend to wear quickly on SPA cars (if not, a quick search and you'll find plenty of threads about it). There has been plenty of speculation as to why and usually people claim it is because of Pilot Assist or Lane Keeping Aid but I've never agreed with that. Volvo has introduced a set of springs that come with the pads now that help them retract from the rotor better. These were installed during production in late 2020 and come with the pads as of May 2021. Just thought I'd pass it along.

Keep in mind, I am referring to brake pads that are wearing out. Not vibrating or squeaking. These threads always turn into a mix of people who have had their brakes replaced for three different reasons.

I won't post this in every SPA forum, I'm sure word will spread.
Thanks for the update. Subaru has used springs like this for years. Why did it take Volvo so long?
this has been happening on at least some XC40s also. Were those updated too? :(
 
#23 ·
I appreciate what you are saying that these are for SPA only (2018+), but I have a 2015 V60 needing new pads on the rear, though the fronts are fine. Is there any similar changed part for the rear pads for such earlier Volvos?
Thanks
 
#16 ·
My guess is since it’s primarily the rear brakes used with pilot assist, the rear pads without the springs wouldn’t rebound sufficiently, which would cause some dragging. In theory these new pads w/springs could potentially improve gas mileage a bit
 
  • Like
Reactions: jford2020
#20 ·
My guess is since it's primarily the rear brakes used with pilot assist, the rear pads without the springs wouldn't rebound sufficiently, which would cause some dragging. In theory these new pads w/springs could potentially improve gas mileage a bit
I'm a little confused, how does Pilot Assist affect the rear brakes? Isn't it just using the steering?
 
#19 ·
Any evidence that this works? I guess it may be too soon to tell since they're obviously only just available.

I wonder how long until non OEM brake pad vendors include springs also. Until then seems like a reason to buy OEM pads.
 
#26 ·
I figured the adaptive cruise fell under the “pilot assist” umbrella. I should have said “adaptive cruise” generally uses the rear brakes for light braking to prevent excessive dive
 
#28 ·
They appear the same. I don't know if there is a difference with the material though. No mention of that in the TJ. I assume they are the same.

The springs are not available separately as of right now. They show up in VIDA but there is no part number.
 
#29 ·
I just had these pads put on the rear brakes 2 days ago. I didn't take a picture of the pads, but here's a picture of the box:

Image


I didn't open the box and didn't see this post until the vehicle was being serviced. The shop did confirm that the springs were part of the pads and apparently other vehicle manufacturers have been doing this for a long time.
 
#31 ·
Not to be too pedantic but are the springs built into the pads or separate? Are we talking coiled springs or 'flat' springs?
 
#33 ·
No, that is not it. That is also not included with the pads.

The springs are not built into the pads. The "ears" of the pads (the part that rides in the bracket) clip into the springs. They connect the pads with outward pressure.
 
#34 ·
No, that is not it. That is also not included with the pads.

The springs are not built into the pads. The "ears" of the pads (the part that rides in the bracket) clip into the springs. They connect the pads with outward pressure.
Thanks, @Tech for the quick follow-up and clarification. I wish I took a pic of the pads when I got them!
 
#38 ·
I'm thinking the new springs are to address brake squeal more than wear.
Previously the outer pads had a self stick layer to prevent the pad from vibrating (the cause of brake squeal), the new pads don't.

On the set I installed yesterday noticed the inner pads have been modified too, their leading edges were cut with a negative radius. No way are these pads going to last longer because they have ~30% less surface area.
 
#40 ·
Hi Guys,

I can share some on this topic. I recently online bought a Volvo 32233035 rear brake pad kit from a Volvo dealer for my 2016 XC90 t6 momentum with 20" tires. The car should have F18-R17 brake system. After got them I found the kit including a set of RC02 version pads (parts #32287447) and a set of springs (not sure the parts #, the number 040-21 stamped on the parts, the number 12.335.000 stickered on the box. No search results matched the parts). My car does have RC01 version brake pads and no springs. I called the Volvo dealer and they confirmed that the kit fit my car. They addressed that the spring are a new part added by Volvo to correct pad premature wear issue. Have not changed brake pads yet. I know RC02 is the version for comfortable driving. Does anyone know whether the driving feelings on these two version brake pads are really different? Thanks!
-David
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
 
#41 · (Edited)
Great information.

I replaced my pads relatively recently so will be on the search for the clips only!