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Hey all. So I have spent over a week pouring over all sorts of different XC90 threads and I'm still not sure what to do and am hoping the community can help.

Basically I need a better 7 seater family car. No way will I be caught in a van. Was originally looking at a Toyota Prado


But there's so many of them it's kind of meh and the interior is so low quality (no 3rd row AC for a start so kids in the back will cook in the aussie summer).

I am looking at a 2004 2.5T. Now I'm not a rich man by any means and I understand some things will be a little more expensive then I'm used to. Problem is after speaking to a couple of Volvo specialists I am kind of nervous.

Both have said all of them have gearbox issues (no matter if T6, 2.5T etc) at around 150 000 kms and a new gearbox is the only option (at 8k just for the box alone). They also stated price for general servicing is pretty bad. Are they right? Now obviously the later models would be better but the prices here are so all over the place they are out of my budget.

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There are several threads that go into detail about issues with each model. Questions like these are very common and have been answered several times. The repairs are not that bad if you can work on most of the car yourself. Parts are slightly more pricey than other brands, but most of the car is simple to repair.
 

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Yeah but most of the threads seem to always have one person who reports no dramas at all while in others there's people who state they are so unreliable. So yeah little confusing. Thank you though I will try find the specific threads you are talking about in case I missed them.
 

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I have 149k miles on my 2.5 and it's fine. The t6 tranny has issues that's for sure, but not the 2.5. Sure at that mileage you might be looking at struts control arms sway bar links wheel bearings timing belt pcv system etc.. But that's either any car with that many miles on it. Well, pcv is Volvo specific. At least the high cost of doing it. If money is tight, i would save more and buy something with lower miles, or look at something different all together, if you don't do any work yourself and can't afford potential repairs. Oil changes here are 100 bucks for synthetic, I do them myself for 30. It's all about saving money where you can.
 

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I just purchased an xc90 v8 2007 with 100,000 in the clock. Same situation with what to buy. Pajero prado or ford territry. As I live in Australia. We had a Holden jackeroo before ( Isuzu trooper in USA) no way was I going for a minivan. I drove all sorts of different variants of the xc90 and then got the bug for a v8. Figured after they went to 6 speed autos they were a bit more reliable. Ours has never towed before and added the towbar myself. I plan on doing all I can to save a buck. Not sure if your a hands on guy but I've done engine swaps and all sorts over the years. Was impressed by what the volvo had to offer over the other brands and at $89000 new ( we paid $19000) you get a bit more bang for buck with the volvo. Safer too. But I've already been stereo typed by friends family and other road users. Toyota parts are sometimes a bit more pricey but at the end of the day your used car is only as good as the person who owned it previously. Toyotas are general ya reliable car even when abused. About to do my first service today 5000 km in as we have done a bit of towing and long distance trips. Want to fit a trans cooler next and maybe do the delete pipe thing ( mid life crises). I love the car and hope it's the right choice. My wife just wants a practical people mover and finds little things that bug her in the volvo. Centre consol arm rest too far back. Lack of head rest adjustment, large turning circle. Can't judge the front. Slippery seats. But there are lots of things to pick from when there are heaps of options. Not that many in the prado. The clincher was when my wife was struck by another car on the left rear quarter panel in the jackaroo 4x4. It nearly rolled as is a top heavy truck like the prado. I feel safe and now a bit bias in my volvo. Hope I haven't confused you more.


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One more thing id like to add. ( as if I haven't said enough) it seems a little harder to add accessories to the volvo than it would any jap car. Revere cameras gps hands free, aftermarket DVD players in dash or ceiling mount. There are solutions but they do cost a bit more. Try and get one with the goodies you want already taken care of. And to get one from a dealership for at least some warranty so you can sleep easy for the first dew months. Happy searching


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Nope I have moved away from the Prado. Even they have big issues (Ball joints popping out on the models I was looking at. Recalled but hard to really determine if it was done.)

Will now be looking at minimum 2006 2.5t as they seem to have less issues. Also the bevel gear drive issues on the earlier models has scared me off as it doesn't seem like something you can just test with a quick inspection. The other problem is our family of 7 including twins (which means twin pram = need room) The XC90 seems designed with 7 seats in mind. Prado etc. seem like slap some seats in the back she will be right.

The prices for XC90's in Australia are so all over the place it's crazy. Low km example full service history, timing belt just done etc. 9k but then you have something approaching the 150 000km mark which means timing belt plus more and they want 15k plus.

The Volvo guy near me claims the 2.5t destroy gearboxes but I don't know if he's even aware a lack of AWD is often related to the bevel gear issues which is a heck of a lot easier to fix then swapping out a gearbox/transfer case. Will be staying away from models over 200 000km with no history of transmission fluid change to. Life fill my foot.

My wife and I are used to Holden Commodores so a XC90 will no doubt be amazing in comparison.

We are fairly handy with the tools. Showed the wife the PCV replacement procedure and she didn't even flinch.
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Our youngest is 3 now but we still cart around a large 3 wheeler pram. There is enough room to fit a party pizza flat behind the 3rd row seat but it does taper off towards the top. Our pram fits in just towards the top but there is still some room down low.
The second row seats are the only place to pop child seats in the current layout. There are no anchor points in the 3rd row. Also it's a bit awkward to buckle them up while your twisted through the door. You could get a mob to pop some anchors in I'm sure. If using the middle row you will need to pop one chair in the middle and one to the side. Leave one side free to access the 3rd row. Kids can't get out the back door with both seats up due to the fancy slide away seat. You may want to get a rooftop box to put the pram in or carry a trailer to carry shopping for 7. Grab your seats and try one out.
Even if your seats are on each side it may not be easy for the kids in the back to get out the middle seat when it's folded flat down.


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Yeah that's what we currently have. 1 seat middle one on the side. We make it work with a 7 seater commodore wagon so the XC90 will probably be much better. Most of the time 1 seat in the 3rd row will be down which should mean pram could technically slide in there. Very rarely do we all go some where together but better to have the option then not.
 
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