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Well I'm about to start a turbo build with two mechanic friends of mine (my car has been all show, no go for too long). Anyway, is it even possible to buy a T5 engine (from a dealer or anywhere else) just to be on the safe side? Most of this project will be labor cost free so money isn't really an obstacle. Thanks.
 

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You will pay much more at a dealer than you would at a wrecker, so I suggest you shop there. It might be tough to find one, but if you look hard, and are willing to travel, (or find a wrecker that will ship) you can save yourself some money. It will have miles and abuse on it most likely though, but if you are rebuilding it, then that doesn't much matter.<p>Now as far as the T5 goes, are they all the same? Obviously the R motor is a bit different (I think I read that it not only uses different cams than ours, but a completely different block as well.), and so is the new motor from the Focus RS, but I'm not sure about others. How many variants of the T5 are out there? It could be worth the time it takes to research. You're obviously not going to find a wrecked FRS, but you might be able to find a wrecked R to work with, which is a better base to build upon I would think. There might also be something better than the T5 in the P1, or maybe our motors have the same basic architecture as earlier T5s which could be cheaper.<p>Good luck...
 

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Re: (mofolicious)

Definitely good points. The only reason I would stick with our T5 is due to the direct fit. I'm a bit worried that with other engines I may have clearance issues (especially since ours was built particularly smaller so that it would fit in the smaller bay). You're definitely right, though. If I'm going out of my way to build a new set-up, I might as well start with a better base. On the other hand, I do feel like our T5 can handle quite a bit of power with a bit of work (or at least that's what I've gathered from existing projects). Keep the info coming!<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Revolve40 at 12:18 PM 5-31-2009</i>
 

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The T5 in the S40 is not the same as the engine in S60/V70/R, it's basically the same as a S60/V70 2.5T redesigned to fit in a smaller engine compartment. Not sure if the 2.5T is available in the US, in europe it's a 210 bhp low pressure turbo.<p>The Heico HS4 Odin did however use an R engine, so it is possible: <A HREF="http://www.europeancarweb.com/features/0607_ec_heico_volvo_s40/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.europeancarweb.com/....html</A><p>The C30/S40/V50 T5 should all be exchangeable if you find one at a wrecker.<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>V50_T5</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wonder what a new T5 motor would cost??? anyone want to go to the dealer and find out? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'd love to know as well. +1.
 

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Yeah we have the 2.5T S60's in the states. I dont feel they are any quicker than out T5 motors.<p>And i can check on a price for a T5 engine tomoro at work but i dont even know if its possible to order as a whole. Never heard of anyone doing an entire engine replacement. I can only imagine that it would be ridiculously overpriced. Talking 6k+ range.
 

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<A HREF="http://www.myswedishparts.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.myswedishparts.com</A><p>i just checked for a v70, 2004, under 'engine', and came up with all of them from the na to the r motors. range was about 5k to 8.5 for the r motor.<p>i do not know what comes with them though. long block, complete, etc.<p>this is a good place to start, it gives the current retail as well as their discounted price. some are exchange price, but it is a start, and you can do it in less time than in reading this.<p>edit; the link works fine; just follow the steps i used.<p>good luck.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hastee</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i do not know what comes with them though. long block, complete, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks for this! I also wonder if these are new engines/what comes with them. When you look up T5 engines for the S40 (05-07), they don't specify "w/ turbo" like the S60 page does...
 

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Do you actually plan to build the bottom end of the engine your buying? Otherwise i wouldnt bother, as long as the tuning is done right you shouldnt have any problem making good power on a stock block unless you wanna throw in some forged pistons for extra security. <p>My tuner just made 525whp on my buddies integra stock block forged pistons and 680whp later that afternoon on a sleeved block.<p>The downfall i see with the attempted high HP volvo setups is the lack of proper tuning. I think we are going to pin up an adapter harness and run a AEM EMS on mine. Just a thought.
 

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Does anyone know the limits of our T5 motors without any internal modifications? With ATP making nearly 400whp on a stock block (and being confident enough to sell bolt-on kits), I'm really curious as to what it could really handle. Also, how would you go about tuning an engine from scratch (I definitely lack in the area of engine management - especially with all of the sensors and such you have to make agree with you)?
 

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If you really have no idea as to how to tune or even any experience with engine performance id find a professional you trust and have them do it. Its the most important part of any turbo kit i dont care what anyone says. The tune is everything.<p>If anyone is interested i would have to highly recommend taking an EFI course. You will learn and incredible amount of information and have a great head start on understanding tuning basics.<p><A HREF="http://www.efi101.com/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.efi101.com/</A>
 

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Myswedishparts.com is a good place to get a baseline for price but you can definitely find new parts for cheaper if you have a decent connection at your own dealership/if you shop around. <p>I imagine at this point after a few years that there are a number of S40/V50/C30 engines with pretty low mileage at the reputable Volvo JYs.
 

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Not a T5, but I just spied a broken 2.4i on ebay in GA <A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-Volvo-S40-2-4L-engine-Needs-valves-58K-miles_W0QQitemZ160337892485QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2554e21485&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1171|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318" TARGET="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...A1318</A>
 

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Good find. I wonder how much the 2.4i block can handle (B5244S4). It could be a cheap(er) alternative.
 

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Only with proper tuning and perfect air fuel ratios. you can get a max of 500 or so out of the stock bottom end on the white blocks. Its the upper end (cylinder heads) that you start runnning into issues at that high of number.
 
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