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<IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com:81/george/before1.jpg"> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com:81/george/after1.jpg"> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com:81/george/after2.jpg"> <P>Had to "edit" my message, my picture hosting service won't let me link here?? I'll have to find another site to host my pics...any suggestions? I'll tackle this tomorrow. Too bad you can't see the pictures now, the car is beautiful!<P>[This message has been edited by ch7656 (edited 03-09-2001).]<BR><p>[This message has been edited by [email protected] (edited 03-10-2001).]
 

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There, I cleaned the post up a little and added the pics to your posting. Car looks great...especially with the wheels cleaned in the after shots <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif">.
 

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Man, your car looks really impressive! Lowering the car I think, made a big difference. Did the install go smoothly? Have you noticed a difference in ride quality or handling yet?<P>Also, do you plan on doing any other type of mods to your car? Thanks for the pics, and congrats, I hope to see more!<P>-Drew
 

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That makes it look like it should have looked when it came from the factory! Fabulous. The first thing I noticed about the V70s is that they look so "sprung." How much were those springs supposed to lower it? It looks like a tad more in the rear than in the front?<P>And if you had somebody else do the labor, how many hours did they charge?<P><BR>Thanks for sharing!<BR>- Darell
 

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Install was very easy and straight forward (according to my mechanic). As a point of reference, I was charged $275.00 for the install and that included a four wheel alignment.<BR>Despite S.A.M.'s claims, the ride quality has been diminished some-what, I expected that so I'm not upset over it. I do think that a nicely matched set of shocks would go a long way to bring the ride back to near OEM quality (I think the stock shocks are really being pushed to their limits, and beyond, with these springs). I didn't see any shocks listed on their site but I have dropped them an e-mail and I'll provide details as soon as I get some.<BR>Keep in my mind my car was not equipped with the "sport" suspension so perhaps the story would be different if your car was with that option<BR>
 

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ch7656,<P>I hope you don't mind, I did a little Photoshopping on you car! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"> I wanted to see what it would look like with painted side and lower mouldings. I just got Photoshop 6.0, ImageReady 2.0, and Paintshop Pro 6, so I am testing them out. I haven't figured out how to use all the stuff yet, so I am not very good. The hardest part was making the wheel look "natural", of course they still don't look real. They are Konig Tantrum 17-inch wheels. I tried! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P> <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com:81/george/after1.jpg"> <P> <IMG SRC="http://www.intelcities.com/Sportster_Way/DrewSRX/work1.jpg"> <P> <IMG SRC="http://www.intelcities.com/Sportster_Way/DrewSRX/work7.jpg"> <P>-Drew<p>[This message has been edited by InDy (edited 03-13-2001).]
 

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That's great! I was considering having the trim painted just like that. But have shied away because I wasn't convinced that long-term the paint would stick to that texured plastic. Think I'm going to wait until the S60R comes out and if from the factory the trim is color matched I'll see what route they took (maybe smoother trim?)and re-consider.
 

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Anyone else install the SAM springs? Or any other lowering spring? What has your experience been?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ch7656:<BR><B>Anyone else install the SAM springs? Or any other lowering spring? What has your experience been?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Let me make sure I understand this. SAM (or other) springs are installed to lower the car, primarily for aesthetic considerations, despite at least some degradation in ride quality and, obviously, it would appear some loss of load capacity. Or, the rear suspension just bottoms out and the load rides on the rubber bumpers that must be back there somewhere. Does the car corner better? Is there any improvement in handling? If the answer to the latter questions is "no," then I'm mystified as to why someone would take a perfectly good, brand new suspension, on which Volvo must have spent a lot of design time and money, and mess with it just for the sake of appearances. I'm not criticizing---the car lowered does look good, and it's your car so you can certainly do what you want with it. But the price (NOT including SAM parts and installation) just seems too high.
 

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A point worth noting is that the S60 prepared for the European market with sport suspension sits a full inch lower then its’ comparably equipped North American counter-part. That finely tuned Volvo suspension that Volvo “must have spent a lot of design time and money” on developing is actually raised an inch to meet U.S. D.O.T. requirements. I find the European “stance” of the S60 to be infinitely more appealing then the “highly sprung” look of the U.S. spec cars, and thus my decision to lower the car about an inch. But, I should add that aesthetics are very important to me and the car in stock form, to my eye, is just too high.<P>The car does handle better and while the ride quality certainly has been altered I would say it was for the better. S.A.M. works very closely with Volvo to develop their products both for their consumer line and their Volvo racing efforts and it shows in the quality of the products.<P>Having come from a M3 and a S4 I found the ride quality of the stock suspension, while comfortable, to be a bit “soft” for my taste. While the S.A.M. springs are not for everyone…I would never go back to stock form 50% for aesthetics and 50% for ride quality. <BR>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ben from Canada:<BR><B>Do I need to replace the struts/shocks when I lower my car?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The springs I bought from SAM were designed to work with the stock shocks, so "no" <P>If shock/struts were available at the time of my purchase I would have bought them in addition to the springs. I would highly recommend getting (if available) now a complete package (springs w/matched shocks).<P>My stock shocks are being pushed to their limits with these springs and I'm sure their life expectancy will be drastically reduced.<BR> <BR>At the time of my purchase there were no complete suspension packages available for the S60. I checked IPD, SAM, Heico and few others. So maybe (hopefully) things have changed by now and new products have been introduced. <P>Suspension work is always a compromise….you give one thing up to gain another and you just need to decide if the trade-off is worth it to you. For me, the springs were a great choice for others they would be a mistake. Good luck and keep us posted<P><BR>
 
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