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I've been away for a while. <p>As some know, I had my '05 less than a week when it hit a deer. $7,000.00 and two months down. Then a slew of bad service related problems. And then mice attacked. Twice. The first attack was for $1,100.00 underhood. Fortunately, I cought them the second time and the damage was under $100.00. Got the car back last week. So I've been stuffing dryer sheets under the hood every night to drive them away - and taking them out every morning before driving off.<p>So tonight I'm driving home from work, a large pile of used dryer sheets on the passenger floor beside me (the car smells like a laundromat), when I get hit. A major hit. Going around a wet sharp curve, a woman lost control in the opposite lane and slid straight going about 40+ (way too fast). Combined impact speed around 60. Smashed me driver side, right at the A pillar straight into the driver's compartment. My pass side then crashed into the guard rail from the lateral force. Very substantial damage, both sides. Driver's side very bad, A pillar and strut tower pushed in hard. Undrivable. Looks like a total. Barely 7K miles on the odo (not much time for driving with all the service and repairs). <p>I hurt tonight. But I'm home typing this, so the car did it's job. Admirably. <p>So here's the deal. Should I go for another R, or is the bad karma just too strong? I had no accidents for over 20 years (driving many hundreds of Ks), and this car seems to attract serious trouble like a magnet. I really love the car when it's not getting hit or being broken by mechanics or eaten by rodents. I mentioned getting another R to my partner who picked me up at the scene, and he thinks I'm nuts to get another one of these. <p>I imagine there are some '06s still left, perhaps at good prices. But should I really continue to tempt fate? I've not looked at the new car market for over a year, and I don't even know what's out there to replace it with. I'm just not a BMW guy. But I like fast, unique, and comfortable sports sedans . . . like the R. <p>Maybe an S4? <p>Any thoughts?
 

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Wow . . . indeed a string of bad luck . . .<p>I would try to manage the mice with a cat, or traps, or maybe just a tray of moth balls in the garage (if you park indoors; that helped me keep mice & squirrels out of a boat I used to store in a shed during winter months).<p>Stick with a car that has a great safety record, imo (my choices would be Volvo or Saab). Given that the impact was next to your seat, you're fortunate that your last purchase was such a safe vehicle.<p>I like my R a lot, but Saab has better reliability, some reaonably quick cars if you are ok with FWD, & also a great safety record.<p> - Mark
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

Sorry the hear Steve, good luck with whatever you choose to do.<br>Hope you're OK<br>JRL
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

<IMG SRC="http://homepage.mac.com/polartek/S60R/images/got_pictures.gif" BORDER="0"><br>Glad you're OK. Sue her and get an RS4 (but hurry before they sell out). They are supposed to start deliveries of the RS4 in May. It's getting late in the model year, so if you want another R, you may have to have it built. Hopefully you/she have good enough insurance to repace it with a new vehicle without you having to take a big loss.<p>Good luck,<br>Polartek
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

Wow, crazy deal. I would consider an R again. Were you happy with the performance and ride? If you are having troubles with a certain dealers service center I would definately consider buying the replacement at a different dealer. The deer accident isn't the car, lots of people have clobbered dear, poop happens, insurance covers it, you weren't hurt. The mice are a wierd thing though but I doubt that is the car either, got to be a better way to combat it than dryer sheets, but I have to admit that's a painless way of dealing with it. In your recent accident sounds like the car definately saved you some serious pain. You were in a Volvo and it worked. It's your choice if you have the confidence in something else. I don't believe that it was solely the Volvo, maybe any car would have fared as well but it is quiet a coincidence.
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

Get back on that horse! Buy the car, again, <B>that which saved your <U>life</U></B>. Get it again and have a blast! That's the least you can do with where your heart is...<br>
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (Short Circuit)

I agree, especially as a firefighter/medic who has cut many a person from a car (in my youth) - buy the car that saved your life! Even if the impact would not have killed you in another car, the impact could have hurt you to the point of serious medical care and months of lost work, maybe enough to still wreck your life. Enjoy the good luck, it was not your time....<p>If you feel R was still mech bad luck, why not buy something used for a while and check out the new S80 later in the year vs the new lare Lexus. The smaller Lexus by the way has also done VERY well in the Natl Safety Institute front offset test, which is really hard. What you describe is much like the hit of that test and your R passed! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

Wow, holy crap, what a helluva string of events. Glad you are basically ok. I understand your feeling that the karma just wasn't right for you, but I would agree with the others to stay with the car that saved you. Maybe the bad karma was just for that particular vehicle
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

On the '07 5-series (available now) BMW offers "night vision" which may not help with flying SUVs but probably will help out with deer. I don't know about the mice. The 550i is 360HP.<p><IMG SRC="http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/ffautoim/20050919/08/1175448698.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/ffautoim/20050919/08/3988751901.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>I also don't know about theis Volvo accident-thing, but I never had any accidents in a variety of cars over hundreds and hundreds of thousands of miles until the Volvo -- and I've had <i>three</i> accidents in the thing! (None my fault, either!) It's kinda like there's just bad karma about the car..... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

Wow, that's horrible. I'm glad to hear you're okay though. If I had to do the purchase all over again, I'd probably still go with the R....but I'd probably get the Nav and Sports Pkg. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> That said, I'm happy with it just the way it is.<p>-Eric
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (Sue Esponte)

You wouldn't happen to have any pics of your car post accident would you?
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (Geniusjustin)

i'm just glad you're ok. it could have been a lot worse.
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

Talking with the wife this evening, the R still seems to fit me best. My partner's right - I guess I'm nuts. <p>So tomorrow, after seeing the doctor (my shoulder hit the B pillar/door very hard, even belted in), I'll see what's still out there in local inventory. I trust Rs are still moving slowly and discounts remain steep. I'll also test drive a few German and Japanese candidates, and perhaps a Caddy V series, just to be sure. Maybe a Porsche, too. Maybe even pre-owned ones, Jim, if you've got a really special one. <p>I might as well have fun with the whole process. <p>I'll confirm the total loss over the next few days. I won't drive this particular R ever again in any event. It carries too many unhappy memories after just 15 months.
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

No, no pix. I got a ride home and the R got a flatbed ride elsewhere.<p>The driver's door could not be reclosed once I got out of it (the weatherseal wouldn't seal anyway - the A pillar is crushed in, including one hinge), so now it's likely sitting in the wrecker's yard in the pouring rain tonight getting some water damage to boot. <p>I'll have my body shop pick it up in the morning so we can go through the formalities.
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

I'm sorry to hear of the accident, and hope that you are ok. If you want something unique then clearly a G35/IS 350 is out. I would say go with the S4 in that case. obviously very similar, but better in the performance areas, probably worse in the maintenance. I imagine you are not willing to wait and you also mentioned that you are not for BMW, but the new 3 Coupe seems interesting, with the new 302 hp twin-turbo'd engine. Should be very close to the R in terms of speed/accel and handle very well. I'm sure these will litter the road very quickly once they come out though. If you are willing to look at used, an older M5 might be the best bet.
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sgmlaw</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Talking with the wife this evening, the R still seems to fit me best. My partner's right - I guess I'm nuts. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's without a doubt a total loss. My parents were in a head on last year (older guy crossed the median on a parkway, combined speed was probably >100mph, as my dad was doing about 70 before he hit the brakes) in a new C-class wagon. They turned around and bought the exact same car again. Having a car save your life will make you do that. If you can, go the same dealer and see if they'll cut you a deal. You're pretty much a walking Volvo salespitch now. (and now you can submit your story to the Volvo saved my life thing)
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (partridge)

Sorry to hear about your accident(s), but glad you're OK, mostly.<p>Take your time and look at the field of cars. I looked at many of the cars you mentioned. For the $$, the R was hard to beat. And if you've been a member of VCOA for six months, you can get a $500 rebate after you've cut you best (non-OSD) deal.<p>Good luck with your quest. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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sorry to hear that but at least you could come online and type the story. if you now have a s60r, try the v70r. on the other hand, if you have a v70r now, try the s60r. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Perhaps the end of my R - bad accident. Suggestions anyone? (sgmlaw)

sgmlaw,<p>I'm also glad to hear that you are doing well. I hope the same is true for the others involved, regardless of their bad driving habits.<p>My vote is for another Volvo R, configured to your liking, purchased through Volvo's European Delivery Program. You deserve a vacation after that string of bad luck anyways. If you get your full value back, take the ~8% savings on O.S.D. and use what's left over for (1.) an exterminator and <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> (2.) a safe rental car until the new car is ready for pickup. Then, enjoy your free trip to Sweden and all of the other benefits that go along with the O.S.D. program. You should even have a few bucks left over.<p>The new S4 or RS4 are tempting replacements and the new twin-turbo BMW 335 may change your mind about BMWs (~300hp and 295lbs/ft of torque for about $40K... sound familiar?). At least the BMW still includes free service for 4 years/50,000 miles.<p>Best of luck with whatever you choose - Tryg
 
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