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Hi,<p>New to volvos here (came from BMW after BMW) and just bought myself a (gorgeous!) 2006 Red manual R. Pleasantly surprised at how fun it is to drive and not as disappointed at the handling as I thought I would be (though the turn radius is embarassing).<p>Couple questions for those in the volvo-know:<br>1) As I said it's a manual. I park it uphill, leave it in first, pull the parking brake up and the car still moves. A lot. To the point where I need to find another parking location. Is this a volvo ideosyncrasy or do I have a serious problem?<br>2) Over bigger bumps I hear some serious rattling. Think plastic container of toys being shaken. Again, normal for the construction or something to investigate?<p>I think that's it for now.<p>Haven't seen a single other R on the road (in Phoenix, AZ and Kansas City, MO and KS mostly - are they pretty rare?
 

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Welcome to the forums!<p>1.) IDK but if you have to find another parking spot that it might be<br>2.) IDK<p>I believe there are about 15,000 "R"'s out there.....if I am wrong someone will correct me...<p><br>What bimmers did you have prior to your purchase?
 

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Re: Parking uphill, rattling noises, and a few other ??s (RRRRED)

Well first of all congrats on the car. <p>As for the issues, I would bring it to the dealer to investigate both. I have had no problems parking on hills so long as the car is in gear. Also, there have been a few squeks and rattles, but nothing like what you mentioned. Is there any chance that some of the tools by the spare tire are not secured?
 

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Re: Parking uphill, rattling noises, and a few other ??s (RRRRED)

The parking on hill thing has been brought up before. Yes I too have experienced this. Most all other vehicles I have ever driven you could get away with just being in gear to hold it (although not the best thing to do). But the “R” tends to have absolutely no compression to hold it it seems. I can feel what is perceived as the pistons just rolling over as though the heads have been pulled off. My parking brake works fine however and I always use it now regardless.<br>
 

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Re: Parking uphill, rattling noises, and a few other ??s (RRRRED)

I think your experiences are somewhat normal. My R settles backward about 2 to 3 inches after pulling the e brake...on nearly level ground! Someone else complained about this previously as well. How much is yours drifting? If you can't even park it on a hill then something may be wrong. As for the clunk in your trunk, that's been mentioned before too. Someone once referred to it as sounding like a "dead body in the trunk." Once again, I also notice this thump sound when going over speed bumps, and it's not the spare or tire iron in the trunk. You describe it as a plastic container of toys being shaken, so that may be different, but I think its the same thing.<p>
 

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Re: Parking uphill, rattling noises, and a few other ??s (jdog)

OK, NOW I'm going to say it, DO A SEARCH HERE!<br><B>These have been clunking since day one.</B><br>It usually is the 4C and can be recitified (to a point)<br>Late R's 05 and 06's have, for the most part, been spared this problem. So, take everything out of your trunk, try those bumps again. If the noises are still in the car, take it to the dealer and good luck in Kansas <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Make sure you select 'Archived Content' when you search.<p>I've sometimes hear a mild clunk in the back sometimes not. Heard it from day 1 in my '05 that was produced in Jan '05. JRL, you say it can be rectified to a point. I don't remember reading about anything you could do on the '05 and later models. I thought the problem was worse on the '04 models. <p>I did a search, and read several posts, but if you can do a quick re-cap for us '05-'06 owners that might be helpful.<br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jazee</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Make sure you select 'Archived Content' when you search.<p>I've sometimes hear a mild clunk in the back sometimes not. Heard it from day 1 in my '05 that was produced in Jan '05. JRL, you say it can be rectified to a point. I don't remember reading about anything you could do on the '05 and later models. I thought the problem was worse on the '04 models. <p>I did a search, and read several posts, but if you can do a quick re-cap for us '05-'06 owners that might be helpful.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>You can spend a day searching for topics in this forum. Good luck finding info in a timely fashion. The dealership can be a tad quicker. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Parking uphill, rattling noises, and a few other ??s (RRRRED)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RRRRED</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi,<p>New to volvos here (came from BMW after BMW) and just bought myself a (gorgeous!) 2006 Red manual R. Pleasantly surprised at how fun it is to drive and not as disappointed at the handling as I thought I would be (though the turn radius is embarassing).<p>Couple questions for those in the volvo-know:<br>1) As I said it's a manual. I park it uphill, leave it in first, pull the parking brake up and the car still moves. A lot. To the point where I need to find another parking location. Is this a volvo ideosyncrasy or do I have a serious problem?<br>2) Over bigger bumps I hear some serious rattling. Think plastic container of toys being shaken. Again, normal for the construction or something to investigate?<p>I think that's it for now.<p>Haven't seen a single other R on the road (in Phoenix, AZ and Kansas City, MO and KS mostly - are they pretty rare?</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Some movement is normal. My 6spd has never had an issue w/ hills. I do have some noise that comes from the rear when going over serious bumps. By the way congrats on your R.
 

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Re: Parking uphill, rattling noises, and a few other ??s (RRRRED)

Make sure parking brake is adjusted properly. Proper is 2 to 5 ratchet clicks before full engagement. <p>Parking brake is independent of service brakes. A small drum system in the rear.<p>Remember that Volvos are not light. You have a large mass, that when in gear is being held back by a relatively small, low compression engine. <p>As in drivers ed 101, leave it in a lower gear, and turn wheels towards curb in direction of travel. Always apply parking brake. <p>In regard to rear suspension noise, what you describe does not sound like the early 4C issues. I suspect something loose in the cargo area. As suggested, do a search on this one. Lots of bandwidth has been used with moderate resolution.
 

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Re: Parking uphill, rattling noises, and a few other ??s (RRRRED)

A prime location for a rattle in many Volvos is the glovebox. There is an easy fix to tighten it up, and that is just wrap the latch with electrical tape (the felt covered type, whatever it is called) a couple times so there is not so much play in the latch. Sounds like a cheap fix, but it works, and there really isn't any any other way to adjust the latch.
 

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First of all, thank you all for your suggestions and congratulations! <p>I just came from the dealership.<p>Yesterday, as I was driving home I went over a bump in my street (one I always go over slowly as my previous car couldn't handle it) and heard and felt horrible things happening under the car. Pulled over, got out, and found a very large hard plastic/rubbery piece on the road. Picked it up and kept it, car seemed to ride fine after that.<p>Showed it to the service guys today - turns out, it was a spring dampener that should have been removed before the car was driven and today the dealership found three more....<p>Car's riding a bit nicer now.<p>As far as the plastic box of toys - (and feeling very silly here) - simply making sure the back seats were in the fully locked position took care of much of that. To my defense though, I never touched the back seats, so I'm filing that under, "things they should have checked before they gave me the car" category along with the spring dampeners...<p>And the parking brake did need "serious adjustment" according to them.<p>All in all, now my car sounds more like there's a dead body in the trunk and based on your comments - I'm calling that normal.<p>As far as what I used to drive, currently drive, my last bimmer was a 330i performance (ZHP) the one before that was a 323i and the one before that was a 525 ix. I also have an '00 vette which replaced a '98 cobra.<p>And to whomever made the Kansas comment - both delearships are in Missouri, thank you very much. (I don't like to think about the fact that I live this close to Kansas.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> )
 

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Re: Parking uphill, rattling noises, and a few other ??s (RRRRED)

as far as the rattle goes, its very common for the link rods to develop excess play (not safety related)
 

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Well it is disappointing to know that after all this time some dealers are still leaving the spring shipping spacers in the cars. These have been part of all "R" models since introduction in 2004. There are other things the dealers can "forget" so I would advise spending some time reviewing this board for things such as "left dealer, headlights now pointing down".<p>Combine that with an E-Brake not adjusted (no they don't stretch!), seat backs not latched, etc. tells me that your car did not get a meaningful PDI, so I would suggest you personally check fluid levels, air pressures etc. I would not leave it up to them to do. Don't forget the spare and check for the jack (such that it is) and small tool kit. <p>As a new owner you may want to check out the VCOA gathering in your area on June 24 and 25. See Midsommar June 2006 at <A HREF="http://www.superiorvolvonorth.com/VCOA_MIDSOMMAR.aspx" TARGET="_blank">http://www.superiorvolvonorth.....aspx</A>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rogersampson</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well it is disappointing to know that after all this time some dealers are still leaving the spring shipping spacers in the cars. These have been part of all "R" models since introduction in 2004. There are other things the dealers can "forget" so I would advise spending some time reviewing this board for things such as "left dealer, headlights now pointing down".<p>Combine that with an E-Brake not adjusted (no they don't stretch!), seat backs not latched, etc. tells me that your car did not get a meaningful PDI, so I would suggest you personally check fluid levels, air pressures etc. I would not leave it up to them to do. Don't forget the spare and check for the jack (such that it is) and small tool kit. <br>[/url]</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'll add to that list - there is a bracket under the exhuast that is not actually touching anything. If you hit that on something (like a large speed bump or the crest of a hill) it will jam up against the exhuast and push that up against propeller shaft, causing major damage. REMOVE the bracket before it is too late!!! It is a simple, do-it-yourself, "mod" that is well worth the time. Put large washers around the bolts as you put them back in or use the cable that takspeed sells. There are many threads about the bracket....<p>Enjoy!<br>Albert
 
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