[Prospero]

Okay, I just have to ask. Is anyone using an open-element air filter on their 240's? I have installed one on mine and think I have killed the mass air flow sensor. The car ran great for a day and then started giving me serious problems. Stranded 2-times due to fuel being shut-off by the MAF. I have un-plugged the MAF for now and am driving in limp mode. As soon as I re-connect the MAF the car will die. I will try some "Gum Cutter" and clean the MAF again to see if there was something strange on it. But I am checking to see if anybody has done this before and can offer a few words.

TIA

Prospero

 

[towerymt]

Nope, not me. I've got an Amsoil panel filter in the stock air box with the preheat hose routed to the right front wheel well.

Any intake leaks after the air mass meter? Hot air has been known to fry more than a few AMM's due to the airbox thermostat being stuck open, so hot air from the engine bay could be the problem. It seems unlikely after only one day, though.

What year is your donor car?

 

[Prospero]

Donor car is an '89 or 90. It has 160K miles and the all important manual tranny. The entire front of the car flat! Looks like the owner hit a brick house at 50 MPH or something like that. No blood inside the car so I figure the driver was okay.

Now I just have to finish the repairs to the car soon. I have the 004 AMM (Air Mass Meter)and think the donor car has something else. I guess I will find out if they are compatiable or not.

Man have I got some work to do. I installed the 16" colombo wheels from my 850 onto the 240 last night with Kai. The car now looks like a 240 XC! I think I can go over curbs witout problem at this point. Err! Looks funky.

Prospero

 

[towerymt]

Well, two problems that I see. Your 240 is an '83, right? The '83 and '84 use the B23F engine, LH2.0 injection, and the 002 AMM (should be silver colored). From '85-'88, the 240 used the B230F with LH2.2 and the 007 AMM (black). '89 and later used LH2.4, with I believe the 016 AMM. Not compatible. If you decide to get an AMM from a junkyard, look at the VIN plate on dash for the 10th digit as 'D' or 'E' for '83 or '84. If you come across an '83 or '84 Turbo, it has K-jet and no AMM.

The other problem you might have is with the transmission. Up through 1985, the 240 had a mechanical cable driven speedometer, which connected to the trans. In '86, they went to an electronic speedo with the pickup on the rear end. If your donor car has a true 5 speed (no OD/5 button on top of the shift knob), then it's an M47, and it doesn't have the necessary cable connection to drive the mechanical speedo. The rear axle also won't have the necessary pickup for the electronic speedo, so you're SOL unless you can figure a way to hook a cable to the M47.

And before go out and buy an M46, you should also know that the driveshafts are not the same length between the M46 and M47, so you can't use the one from the donor car. 1986 was a crossover year with the older M46, but the newer electronic speedo. However, I don't know if an '86 M46 would have the cable speedo attachment or not.

 

[towerymt]

I forgot to say that your donor car SHOULD have an M47 5 speed, since that was the only manual trans available in the 240 from '87 'til the final production in '93. I didn't mean to sound like it could be either one, but the M47 is known to have some problems sometimes, so there's a remote chance that an M47 (or an auto for that matter) could have been replaced by an M46.

 

[Prospero]

Michael,
Thanks for the killer info! You are saving me from some messy work. Yeah, no doubt about the cable-driven speedo. I have one and it is jumpy since the cable is wearing. The donor car has a manual with a trim ring around the shifter. What's it for? Also, would it be safe to assume that I can take and use the trans and drive shaft from the donor car without too much issue or is the rear-end at a different distance as the newer ones? I hate to loose mine as it had LSD and is in good shape. Also, I think I have a replacement AMM from a guy on the brickboard. He has an 84 245GL. He has not given me the price yet, but I did tell him I'm on a tight budget. Hopefully he'll be nice.

Anyhow, I still have much to do on this car before I'm really happy with it. I still want to install the 3-up gauges in the pocket and clean up the interior. I am thinking about painting it all black using a rubberised lacquer similiar to what VW uses in the new cars.

Well TTYL and thanks again...

Prospero

 

[towerymt]

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Originally posted by Prospero:
Michael,
Thanks for the killer info! You are saving me from some messy work.

Sure, no problem.

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The donor car has a manual with a trim ring around the shifter. What's it for?

It's part of the reverse lock out mechanism. Keeps people from accidently "downshifting" to reverse. Pull up on the ring and push the lever left, and a plastic spacer at the base of the shift lever goes up and over a metal plate (reverse detent plate). When you shift out of reverse, there's no need to pull up on the ring. It will just snap back down when it's shifted out of reverse.

This mechanism also serves to line up the shift lever when shifting to 1st or 2nd gear. If the plate is out of alignment, it can make it difficult to shift in those two gears. I posted earlier today at the brickboard about how to adjust the plate:
http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/READER/?f=20203550;fi=1

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Also, would it be safe to assume that I can take and use the trans and drive shaft from the donor car without too much issue or is the rear-end at a different distance as the newer ones?

Yes, the trans with the driveshaft, cross member, and some other stuff off the donor car will go right into your older car. The difference in length is just the transmission. The M46 is longer than the M47 because of the overdrive unit on the rear.

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Also, I think I have a replacement AMM from a guy on the brickboard. He has an 84 245GL. He has not given me the price yet, but I did tell him I'm on a tight budget.

$25-$40 is about what I'd expect for a used AMM. Ebay seller "plk1" is a good source. You could probably get one sooner & cheaper at a junkyard. The yard in Jessup, MD that I've been to a few times had several older 240s, and I'm confident that Brian Leppin would have one in his yard of Volvos down in Bryans Road, MD (volvousedparts.com).

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I still want to install the 3-up gauges in the pocket and clean up the interior.

Have you decided which gauges you'd like to use? Here's a page that documents most of the Volvo 52mm gauges that were available:
http://grove.ufl.edu/~estaufer/volvoaccessories.htm

 

[11110000]

Prospero - if you still have trouble getting an AMM, let me know. My pick 'n' pull has at least 2 of the appropriate model AMM available. I don't know what they'd charge me (they're usually dirt cheap for most stuff), but I'd pass it on to you at no profit.

The 3 gauge cluster is a nice addition. I put a full set of gauges in my '83 (sorry for huge image):

 

[Prospero]

Wow! That IS a big picture. It's cool though. I love the gauges but have a question. Is the "other" fuel gauge for fuel pressure or just another fuel qty meter?

Also, I think I may have an AMM for $75.00 plus some other things I needed. If the deal doesn't come through, I'll take you up on your offer.

Thanks all for the help!

Prospero

 

[11110000]

It's not a fuel gauge. Volvo calls it a 'Fuel Economy' gauge, but all it really measures is manifold vacuum, sort of the NA equivalent of a turbo boost gauge. It's not all that useful, but I got it with the 3-pak off ebay, it looks nice, and adds interest. I mostly peg it in the red zone when I drive!

 

[Prospero]

Oh, I see. That's cool. Yeah, the economy...it's in the RED!

Prospero