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So, yesterday morning I get a CEL on my way to school. After school, I took it over to Auto Zone for them to pull the codes. I got a P2196 which they told me could be the MAF sensor, leaking injector or FPR, faulty O2 sensor pre-cat, or open/short circuit condition. I called up the dealership and asked them how much to pull the DTC, and he said $50, then he said $100/hr to diagnose it further. So I decide to check into the ipd scan tool diagnostic software for the softloader. If it pulls DTCs, I'd rather pay $150 once than $50 for each pull from the dealer. I kinda grannied it - didn't want to stress anything out, but I did not notice any change in performance, so I figured if I grannied it to work just for today and tomorrow, then I would fix it Monday, I would be good. Took it to work this morning, and noticed nothing wrong with the conservative driving I did. During lunch the CEL went off. I thought "whoopie! It might have cleared." WRONG! On my way home (again, grannying it in case I was wrong) I get the REDUCED ENGINE PERFORMANCE message and my A/C stops blowing cold air - woah. So I pulled over, opened the engine bay and checked for anything noticeable. So I get into the car and start her up, and now I have 2 messages! REDUCED ENGINE PERFORMANCE and ENGINE SYSTEM SERVICE REQUIRED. I grannied it the rest of the way home - noticing very little difference in performance - acceleration seemed a bit more sluggish, but I was accelerating very slowly and never took it above 3k rpm. When I got home, I blipped the accelerator before turning it off and THATS when I noticed something. It had no immediate response, seemed to go down in rpm before coming up. I assume I didn't notice the reduced performance because I was accelerating like my grandma in her jalopy.<p>I think I'm gonna have to bite it and take it to the dealership. I just checked the ipd website and it looks like they are out of stock. I hope they at least lube up at the dealership before "servicing" me...<br>Waiting for them to call me back... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Anyone have something similar to this happen and want to share their experience? Should I reflash back to stock before taking it to the dealer? Is it likely due to a modification? I've had my mods for a little over 2 months and this is the first time anything negative has happened.<p>I need a beer...
 

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Re: One after another.... please make it stop! (chrizzis)

I'm bringing it in tomorrow. Do I need to reflash to stock before giving it to them?
 

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Re: One after another.... please make it stop! (chrizzis)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chrizzis</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm bringing it in tomorrow. Do I need to reflash to stock before giving it to them?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That would be most wise.
 

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Re: One after another.... please make it stop! (chrizzis)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chrizzis</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm bringing it in tomorrow. Do I need to reflash to stock before giving it to them?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>You don't need to if its out of warranty. Plus it will keep any freeze frame data.<p>You don't happen to use an oiled air filter do you?
 

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Re: One after another.... please make it stop! (Oceans60R)

Nope. I just took the sock off the stock one. Any flow problems with the sock off?
 

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Re: One after another.... please make it stop! (chrizzis)

Hand checked all the IC piping, everything is snug from the turbo to the throttle body.
 

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similar to what I just had. If the accelerator does not seem to be responding properly, could be the throttle position sensor, which means a throttle body replacement ($820 for me, but read anywhere from $600-$1k) depends on how much "diagnostic" time they want to arbitrarily charge you for.
 

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Well, the dealership just called. Accelerator position sensor failure. $380. It could be worse.
 

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I got my car back. It was $380 total, which made it sweet for me because I thought it was going to be $380 for the part only, so I was happy about it.
 

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I didn't get to test it too much as the temp is hovering around 108 today, but it didn't have the messages or CEL and it has the power back.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chrizzis</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, the dealership just called. Accelerator position sensor failure. $380. It could be worse.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is on/near the pedal I guess (vs. "throttle position sensor?) ? My dealer replaced my whole throttle body perhaps unnecessarily since i still have the problem.
 

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I bet that felt good, $380 is a bit better than a Grand.<p>Hell, the dealership just quoted me $390 last week for the 45k checkup which according to them is just cabin filter, fluids including oil, and a wheel rotation.... Im pretty sure i can do all 3 in under an hour <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PdangerP</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... volvo dealers are known to just change parts arbitrarily.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It is called Shotgun Troubleshooting and it's bull$hit, it takes no skill, and it costs the customer everything. There is no reason it should ever be done by a Technician. Mechanics just throw parts at problems, but Technicians are supposed to know better. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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