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<br>I was thrilled to get my 98 s70 GLT back 8 months or so ago with extremely low miles (18K). Everything on the car checked out fine. Original everything (tires, etc). It now has 26K.<p>So it needs new tires - no problem - put new tires on it. ABS light was next - $140 or so fix by Victor (he said there were age cracks in the circuit board). Not a bad fix. <p>In for service and found that even with low mileage the timing belt was over 7 years old and should be replaced (haven't done it yet figured I'd get it done at @27K - next few weeks).<p>Now the struts are completely shot / shocks bad too. The struts seemed to go bad over a very short number of weeks - usually it's a gradual degradation - but not these - really bad, really quick. Sway bar end links I *think* need to be replaced as I am getting another noise from that area as well. Yesterday I started to get a clunking noise on a hard right turn into a parking space (tell me it isn't a CV joint)....<p>I guess what I am trying to say is that even though the car has low miles - it's suffering from old age - just the same repairs that I probably would have made if the car had higher miles. <p>The goal was to run it for four years until my son got his license and give it to him as a first car but it's getting a bit expensive. <p>Yep, compaining here but I guess my theory of an older car with low miles being the way to go has been shot.<p>Yannis - I may have a "sweet" trade coming your way. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Older Volvo S70 with low mileage = good deal - not so sure anymore... (mumpsdba)

Something's wrong here. Struts and shocks do not derterioate by sitting.<br>They should be good at least to 50-60K or more. Are you SURE the car has only those miles or was the speedo replaced or reprogrammed?
 

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Re: Older Volvo S70 with low mileage = good deal - not so sure anymore... (mumpsdba)

Welcome to Volvo's of this era. Everything you mentioned about this car that is broken are all the things that have broken on nearly all of our cars regardless of age. It sucks that it seems that it's all happening at once but it was going to happen. Your hopes were very high but your recent collapse of parts brought you right back down.
 

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Re: Older Volvo S70 with low mileage = good deal - not so sure anymore... (JRL)

I know it doesn't seem right but I have the service records and chronologically they all jive. The car itself shows as a 25K car. Little to no wear on the leather - the underside of the car is like brand new. Actually not even dirty on the underside. <p>Honestly I don't know what's going on here - could I be mistaking the wear on the struts with something else? The car just doesn't seem to handle any size bump without a harsh feeling. The build date was July 97 so it is pushing 9 years old but even so lots of issues.<p>Respectfully, <p>Steve.
 

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Re: Older Volvo S70 with low mileage = good deal - not so sure anymore... (mumpsdba)

I agree w/ JRL, something doesn't seem right. A CarFax report should answer questions as to the actual mileage. As far as the other stuff, it's hard to say about the shocks going bad w/ age. I wouldn't think so, but you never know. Plenty of things go bad on cars if they're not driven. And I hate to say it, but that clunk does sound like it could be a CV joint. Do some testing, and see if it actually makes a clicking noise when you're making those low-speed, tight turns.
 

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Re: Older Volvo S70 with low mileage = good deal - not so sure anymore... (Mk1Racer)

Thanks - <p>Carfax was run and checked out as well. You're absolutely right tho - a sitting car is not a great thing. I have a 65 GTO that sees about 200 miles a year and from sitting there is always something that needs work - even tho it was nut/bolt restored. <p>CV joint, well I plan to do some tests later today to verify if my suspicions are correct...I have a bad feeling.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>So let's see - possible bad CV joint, new timing belt, new struts, shocks and sway bar end links. That should just about max out the Visa....
 

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Re: Older Volvo S70 with low mileage = good deal - not so sure anymore... (mumpsdba)

I would look at the entire suspension. Unless a shock/strut is actually leaking it should not be bad this soon, also they don't go "just like that"<br>I'll bet something broke.<br>What are your exact symptoms and how quickly did they occur? Sounds to me like one or more suspension bushings just dried up and have either cracked or something else as these noises really shouldn't be there on an otherwise normal 30K mile car. Sway bar links have a rubber bushing so it's possible.<br>How was this car stored over the years?<br>The ABS also sounds funky to me, never heard of one going on time alone. Timing (and all other belts and hoses) should be changed as that is right, they will go bad and crap out with time and it's better to be safe than real sorry
 

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Well, if you sent the ABS to Victor I'll bet that's fixed for a while now since most people have good luck with that.<br>Spring seats? Strut mounts? Maybe even the rubber engine mount or the firewall mount behind it could cause some clunking around although you said it's on a turn. But shocks/struts should go more than 30K. I'm on original stuff in that dept at 136K miles (granted they don't feel new) but still check out ok.
 

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Quick update;<p>Removing the swaybar end links and tooling around the neighborhood has made a significant improvement!!! No more clunking and I can no longer reproduce what I thought was a CV joint clunk noise of a hard right turn. I'm wondering if all the symptoms were related to the end links? I mean the harsh ride may be because everytime it hit the smallest little bump - the endlinks were clunking - making me think the struts were shot? Anyway, the heavy duty endlinks have been ordered and the S70 will have to sit for a couple of days until I get them. When I took off the links one side came right off, the other side had pressure on it from the sway bar pushing up on it - have you guys encountered that? Taking them off was easy - I'm wonder how easy the new ones will go back on because of that sway bar pressure. Anyway, I *think* I am in a better place. <p>When I had the tires replaced 8 months or so ago I had them check the struts and they said they were fine. So perhaps everything is related to the end links? JRL - in your experience is 30K about the time that the endlinks start to go bad on these cars - or is the failure rate all over the map - mileage-wise?<p>BTW - The endlinks showed no visible wear - but I imagine that the ball on the insides must have been worn out.<p>Thanks to all that replied - as usual everyone is very helpful.<p>Respectfully,<p>Steve.
 

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Many of the OEM endlinks go bad by 30K miles...really depends on the roads and how your car was driven by the P.O. You'll absolutely love the new H.D. endlinks. If your car doesn't already have the IPD swaybars, now would be a great time to upgrade those components too. Absolutely the best upgrade I've done to my S70 so far.
 

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As MIJ said it depends on the roads.<br>Here in PA, as you know, we have some pretty awful bumps, potholes and heaves.<br>I've had them go as little as 18K miles and they can make some pretty awful noises when bad.<br>If you checked them for play and they seemed fine but the noises went away when removed you may have a bad sway bar bushing. Those too can make some pretty awful noises when worn or broken.<br>I would spring for the bucks and <B>buy a set of ipd sway bars</B>, you will LOVE the way the car will handle and with such a low mileage car it would almost be a crime <B>not</B> to install them <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Again, I don't know your budget but if this car is a keeper, at the time you replace the end links I would replace every rubber bushing in the front suspersion that is economically feasable to you. These are rubber, rubber goes bad over the years, dry rots, crackes and finally under load, disintegrates just like the torque mounts do.<br>Just like tires, even if they have great tread they dry rot unless kept in a climate controlled environment
 

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Thanks guys - <p>End links are my #1 priority - so I can at least drive it again. The other upgrades/replacements will be done soon after. I do appreciate the help and advice. I feel *much* better.<p>JRL didn't realize you were in PA. I'm in the Chester/Berks/Montgomery area, any good Indy shops around?<p>Thanks again - <p>Steve.
 

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Well just installed the HD endlinks. BIG difference. It amazes me that all of the front end symptoms that I described were due to a reasonably inexpensive part.<p>Back to being happy again. <p>thanks again guys.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mumpsdba</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <p>JRL didn't realize you were in PA. I'm in the Chester/Berks/Montgomery area, any good Indy shops around?<br>.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Well, IM me and I'll give you the skinny on all (that I know) of them
 

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Re: Older Volvo S70 with low mileage = good deal - not so sure anymore... (mumpsdba)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mumpsdba</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Yannis - I may have a "sweet" trade coming your way. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Actually I'll give you a bit <B>more</B> than a Volvo dealer will on a trade
 
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