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I am buying a new car since my current car will only seat two people. <p>My top two choices right now are the Lexus IS350 and the Volvo s60r. I already figure that everyone is going to tell me to buy the Volvo, but what I am wondering is how much better is it than the Lexus, if it is better that is. I can't find any direct comparisons for the two cars even though they seem to be in the same class. <p>Also, what is depreciation like on a Volvo? I know some people are getting 60% or more back on their Lexus at trade in after 4-5 years.<p>Thanks in advance!
 

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Re: Ok, So I am considering a s60r (TEC)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>TEC</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, what is depreciation like on a Volvo? I know some people are getting 60% or more back on their Lexus at trade in after 4-5 years.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>In a word....horrid. Volvo is "deep discounting" cars while Lexus is not. Therefore, the residual number looks bad but you have to compare it against the "out the door" cost versus MSRP.
 

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drive them both and buy the one you like more.<p>volvos depreciate like nuts. when i was shopping for cars..i noticed that the "new" volvos were priced similar to the competition. when you look at 2-3 year old models, the volvos are WAY chepaer than the competitor cars....<p>look at a used 2003-2004 S60 vs a used 325/330 fromthe same year with the same mileage. <p>if i were in the market for a volvo, i'd buy a low mileage used one and lowball them...you could save TONS
 

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Re: Ok, So I am considering a s60r (TEC)

I have the R, and have gotten to drive the IS. Generally speaking, I can't stand Lexus products, but the new IS genuinely impressed me. It had decently weighted steering feel, good power and had an amazing interior that the R doesn't match. The power output is pretty linear and the thing can really take off. But it does cost quite a bit compared to the R after discounts. The Lexus has no discounts and the lack of a manual would be the deal-breaker for me. The paddle shifters are not too bad, but it doesn't have the control I would want. Also, there is a lot of body roll through turns, which I didn't like. <p>The R has the manual and AWD with a lot of power. It's unique, but doesn't match the fit and finish of Lexus and has had many annoying little problems during my 2 and 1/2 years of ownership. The steering feel isn't as good as the IS, but I feel that the R handles better. <p>The residuals on the R are terrible, while the Lexus should hold up well. The lack of comparisons is probably due to the AWD vs. RWD and the auto only vs. a manual. As nice as the Lexus is, they are all over the road at this point. It's a great looking car and does everything well, but isn't at all special or unique to me.
 

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Re: Ok, So I am considering a s60r (Vipergtsz3)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Vipergtsz3</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The residuals on the R are terrible, while the Lexus should hold up well.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>For straight residual percentage....no contest. Howver, you can't buy a Lexus for $10K under MSRP so real world depreciation is the difference between what you pay and residual; not MSRP and residual.
 

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Re: Ok, So I am considering a s60r (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>For straight residual percentage....no contest. Howver, you can't buy a Lexus for $10K under MSRP so real world depreciation is the difference between what you pay and residual; not MSRP and residual.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The steep discount has already been factored in, compare to purchase price, you will STILL easily lose 1/3 of the car value after 1 year. <p>Lexus and BMW will lose probably 1/4 or less.
 

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Re: Ok, So I am considering a s60r (stevectsai)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevectsai</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The steep discount has already been factored in, compare to purchase price, you will STILL easily lose 1/3 of the car value after 1 year.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>So if you buy a $45K R for $36K, it will be worth $24K next year? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Considering that my 2004 R stickered for $42K (bought it for $38K) and I was recently offered $27K wholesale, I doubt it.
 

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Re: Ok, So I am considering a s60r (stevectsai)

33k x 1/3=11k<br>40k x 1/4=10k<p>Numbers just for comparison sake... Not too much of a difference... The vehicles have enough differences that a couple of spirited test drives should tell you which you like better....<p>Don't make the wrong decision just because something is cheaper...
 
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