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so i called volvo of north america today and realized that they arent of much use unless i want to get a stereo code or a accesories catalog sent to me. the women was about as knowledable about volvos as i am about the physical of cold fusion. does anyone run diffrent oil in their R than 5-30 and 0-40? i know mobil 0-40 is recommneded for performance engines such as mercedes AMG, Porsche and other high end vehicles. i used 0-40 in my past 3 cars and it made all of them run great and 2 of the 3 were 130K and 230K on the cars with stock turbos. so my question is does anyone use 0-40? how has it worked? has the dealer had anything to say about it?
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (s60r32)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pie_ya</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since there are a few new owners here I thought I'd repost "R" Kelly's recipe for a happy R.<p>1. It is very easy to spin her up, so make sure she always has proper lubrication (synthetic is best, huge debate, but I switched to Mobil1 0-40).........<p><br> </TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (s60r32)

My dealer is fine with me bringing in Mobil 1 that they use when changing the oil in my car (my '05 has the free services for awhile . . . I still do an intermediate change myself between the "free" 7500-mile services).<p>I've heard of others using the Mobil 1 0W40 multi-weight, but it isn't always easy to find where I live.<p>An R in Palmer MA? Neat . . . <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p> - Mark
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (geoguy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>geoguy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My dealer is fine with me bringing in Mobil 1 that they use when changing the oil in my car (my '05 has the free services for awhile . . . I still do an intermediate change myself between the "free" 7500-mile services). I've heard of others using the Mobil 1 0W40 multi-weight, but it isn't always easy to find where I live.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Same here..... though I use 10/30 M1 year round and change every 3750.
 

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i use mobil 10-30 right now and in the winter i will use 5-30 i have an 04 and bought it with only 18K on it a few months ago so i have the changes left with my dealer till 30K but i always bring my own oil and since we bring F&S so much business (local volvo dealer) they tend to not care what i do but i have been curious on the 0-40 because it had the high heat protection and since it is more liquid at cold temps i was thinking it could lubricate the engine faster than the 5 or 10 weights
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>s60r32</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i use mobil 10-30 right now and in the winter i will use 5-30 i have an 04 and bought it with only 18K on it a few months ago so i have the changes left with my dealer till 30K but i always bring my own oil and since we bring F&S so much business (local volvo dealer) they tend to not care what i do but i have been curious on the 0-40 because it had the high heat protection and since it is more liquid at cold temps i was thinking it could lubricate the engine faster than the 5 or 10 weights</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Since M1 pours to 40+ below, I stick with the 10/30 year round and don't worry about it. According to the owner's manual, 10/30 is good to -4 on its own so I am covered. I have read that the larger viscosity range oils tend to have a lot of additives that breakdown quicker than a closer range viscosity. If you're splitting the intervals anyway, you should be fine with 0/40.
 

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hmmm.........im a skierd so me in -30 conditions is not uncommon living in the northeast and going to VT and montreal and once i am over 30K on my car i wil change the oil every 4K on my own but since its on the dealer now i let them pay<p>sometimes i tend to worry about things that are uneeded <p>if u ever started your engine on a day when it is -18 in the morning you can see a massive diffrence between a 5-30 weight and a 10-30 weight............. vroom (clack clack clack) ewww valves dont sound so good
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>s60r32</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u ever started your engine on a day when it is -18 in the morning you can see a massive diffrence between a 5-30 weight and a 10-30 weight............. vroom (clack clack clack) ewww valves dont sound so good </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I would think less so with a synthetic since it resists coagulating. With dino juice........I can definitely believe it.<p>And that would be "hear" a difference. It would be difficult to "see" a difference. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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everyone in western MA isnt tasteless and poor contrary to belief.........not saying u were implying that but it tends to be the common belief i went to college out in central MA and all my freinds were from the boston area and families were more affluent and it is funny to see peopel thinking we are all poor farmers................wont say palmer isnt a little blue though.........and even more unusual i am a 24 year old in Palmer with an R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Same here..... though I use 10/30 M1 year round and change every 3750.</TD></TR></TABLE>You use M1 and change your oil every thrity-seven hundred miles? I have to say it: That's total overkill and will do nothing to prolong the life of the engine.
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (robert_in_ca)

Synthetics can go a long way. My sisters BMW has 15K mile oil changes...I've also used the same oil for a lot longer than that on my 94 accord and it is running really strong with 220K on the clock.<p>I am not suggesting to go that long, but I agree that changing the oil that soon versus twice that will not make a difference (in my opinion).<p>I know of a case where a guy who had a semi stopped changing the oil (AMSOIL) and just had his oil analyzed every 15K miles. He finally changed the oil after 409,000 miles. When the guy finally sold the semi, they had the engine pulled apart and all the seals and pistons, etc were in suck good shape that they just put the engine back together without any cleaning whatsover.<p>Yes, different engine different driving habits, etc but it is also good to be vigilant about your baby and do what is best for it. If it means changing the oil sooner than later, cool. You will still have a great car that will take care of you in the long run.<p>I use 5 wt 40 from AMSOIL because that is their recommended euro version oil that fits my bill...have had it in my car since about 4K with the magnetic oil plug on my last oil change. In my 16K miles that I have on the car, I've probably burned between 1-2 quarts of oil.
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (pie_ya)

I use fully sythetic M1 10-30 year round. I change the oil myself every 4000-5000 miles depending on the color of the oil. I drive my car very spirited most of the time. That 4000-5000 mile range yields almost a black oil (dark brown) at the time of changing it. I can't see how an oil would be good any longer than 5000 miles if the blackish color is showing a breakdown in the viscosity of the oil. Am I wrong in thinking a blackish oil needs changing when it went in a clear gold color? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (robert_in_ca)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>robert_in_ca</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You use M1 and change your oil every thrity-seven hundred miles? I have to say it: That's total overkill and will do nothing to prolong the life of the engine. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>For me, that's every six months so fresh oil before the summer and fresh oil before the winter. Yes, it is probably overkill but the R is a heat belching turbo and I don't feel comfortable replacing oils every year or so. An extra $50/year for a bit of added protection is fine by me. I am sure that the next owner will appreciate it as well.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pie_ya</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Synthetics can go a long way. My sisters BMW has 15K mile oil changes.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Again, that's fine for her but that's every two years for me. Unless it's a lease car......fuhgettaboutit.<p>
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (MagoonR)

The engines in our cars are hard on oil. 300 hp in a 2.5L turbo engine with a 5.5 qt sump is asking a lot from your lubricant. Much harder on oil for example than a 4.4 L 325 hp n.a. engine with a 7 qt sump. Personally I think using a good (PAO based like Mobil 1, Amsoil, Castrol GC 0W30) is much more important in these engines than most. I would also be careful about doing very extended (>6-7K) OCI unless you are doing used oil analysis to check on the life in the oil. I and many others have done used oil analysis and found much of the life (TBN is a measure of this) of good synthetic oils gone in 5-6,000 miles. Generally I agree that people tend to dump good synthetic oil too soon but I would be careful with these engines going too long. If your not doing analysis the safest thing is to change it every 5K with a good synthetic.
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (s60r32)

There is almost a "cult" like following for German Castrol Syntec 0w30. This is available at some Auto Zone and Walmart stores. Be sure to check the package for "made in Germany". Evidently it comes close to Red Line quality with the cost of Mobil 1. I have been using it for 15,000 miles - not enough miles to claim an experienced judgement. I decided to use it following much research on the internet in the USA and Europe. Dealer was very interested in this oil, in fact the service advisor said he would use it since this is the oil they recommend for the R in Sweden.<br>Good luck with whatever oil you choose.
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (Ajay)

Ajay,<p> Your right on about the cult for German Castrol (or GC). I have GC (labled Castrol Syntec 0W30--European formula with "Made in Germany" on the back label) in my R now after using Amsoil 5W30 for the most of the past 2.5 years. In the US you can only find 0W30 Castrol Syntec at Autozone--all the 0W30 is GC. In Canada it can be found at Walmart as well. The big difference is that in Europe (where GC is made) many of the Castrol products are "true" synthetics based on group IV (PAO) basestocks. In the US market all but the 0W30 grade of Castrol Syntec are based on group III basestocks which are not quite as robust as the PAO basestocks found in Mobil 1, Amsoil (all but the XL line), Redline, and GC. Another interesting fact about GC-- don't let the "0W" fool you--even though it is 0W30 it is a very thick oil--just slightly less viscous at operating temperature than a 40W oil. I believe it is slightly thicker than amsoil 5W30 and mobil 1 5W30 as well--so its a fine oil for summer time as well as winter. Its really made for the added specs required by many European engines and should be a great oil for the "R".
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (s60r32)

Whatever brand you choose is personal preference as long as it is a true PAO synthetic.<br>My personal belief is not to use a grade of oil that is less than what is in the owner's manual, so if the owner's manual states 5wsomething or 10wsomething than I wouldn't put in 0w as the shear loading and other hydraulic qualities of a 0wanything are going to be less than what the manual states and what the engine was designed to use.<br>I use 10w30 synthetic year round (redline) and I used it while living UP north too. No funny noises and the oil light went off quick enough. If you are using a 10w30 synthetic anywhere in the lower 48 and you have weird noises on cold mornings it's likely something isn't in tip top shape, not that the oil is too thick.
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (vintagemilano)

i was thinking the same about going beyond reccomendations of oil weights. my new v70 has in the manual (same as the R) that o-30 is acceptable for the cars (mine '06) but not when the ambient is regularly over 86F. it is, however, on the oil chart in the manual.<p>edit; oh, and the manual also now says that the auto tranny for the v70 use jws 3309. opening the mobil atf 3309 as officially approved. my dealer is now offering the mobil atf 3309 as an alternative to the $$$ volvo part number (which is no longer listed in the fluid cart for the auto tranny).
 

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Re: Oils being used in R (geoguy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>geoguy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>An R in Palmer MA? Neat . . . <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p> - Mark</TD></TR></TABLE><br>s60r32 actually claims to live in the fictional town of Plamer,MA. look at his sig.
 
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