[Fooj]

The valves can end up getting gummed up pretty bad from the burnt off blow-by. Had that happen to a customers XC70 at around 95k, thankfully Volvo took care of that one on good will.

Well ****. I thought the 5 cyls being port injected would mitigate that?

 

[DFrantz]

Well ****. I thought the 5 cyls being port injected would mitigate that?

I thought that only helped on the intake side? I haven't torn one apart yet myself.

If you're DIYing it... you could take the head off and clean it up. Though at that point might as well tackle the rings. I've not done it myself, or anything on the top side of the motor but the oil pan doesn't seem too painful. I've pulled some off the P2 cars and when under the P3 cars it doesn't seem much worse unless I'm forgetting something. Of course, if you don't have a garage and it's a daily driver everything gets more complex. Before the warranty came out I was planning on doing it for my wife's XC60 at the same time as the timing belt.

 

[Fooj]

I thought that only helped on the intake side? I haven't torn one apart yet myself.

If you're DIYing it... you could take the head off and clean it up. Though at that point might as well tackle the rings. I've not done it myself, or anything on the top side of the motor but the oil pan doesn't seem too painful. I've pulled some off the P2 cars and when under the P3 cars it doesn't seem much worse unless I'm forgetting something. Of course, if you don't have a garage and it's a daily driver everything gets more complex. Before the warranty came out I was planning on doing it for my wife's XC60 at the same time as the timing belt.

Yeah.. guess I’ll add it to the list of stuff to do when I inevitably have to tear down the engine I guess. Additive route is doing jack all. Just need to get the garage cleared out 😅 that’s my excuse anyways.

 

[Fooj]

I thought that only helped on the intake side? I haven't torn one apart yet myself.

If you're DIYing it... you could take the head off and clean it up. Though at that point might as well tackle the rings. I've not done it myself, or anything on the top side of the motor but the oil pan doesn't seem too painful. I've pulled some off the P2 cars and when under the P3 cars it doesn't seem much worse unless I'm forgetting something. Of course, if you don't have a garage and it's a daily driver everything gets more complex. Before the warranty came out I was planning on doing it for my wife's XC60 at the same time as the timing belt.

Oh I just got sidetracked. Afaik the temp of exhaust gases keep exhaust valves relatively clean, so in theory between port injection for intake valves and heat for exhaust valves there shouldn’t be buildup? But then obviously it happened on that xc70 so I don’t know. Hopefully someone who knows can chime in, cuz otherwise I’m running on borrowed time

 

[Chay 93]

Can any one let me know what’s the ball park figure that Volvo is charging for oil consumption test on these P3’s if it’s out of warranty?
Thanks.

 

[DFrantz]

I checked with our department and it's $431 + tax

 

[Chay 93]

I checked with our department and it's $431 + tax

Thank You!
Wow thats a lot considering all they are doing is an oil change.

 

[KoopaTroopaV60]

Can any one let me know what’s the ball park figure that Volvo is charging for oil consumption test on these P3’s if it’s out of warranty?
Thanks.

My Volvo dealer charged me about $150 each for my 2 oil consumption tests

 

[isaved15%bydoingitmyself]

Can someone explain this to me, because apparently I'm stupid? I did get the letter, but I have an early 2015 Xc60 that's at the like 89k mark, and am currently dealing with oil issues. Was gathering the funds for an Oil trap replacement this last weekend. But since its the summer release I'm past the 8 year mark, and I've done any work myself since getting the car roughly 14 months ago. Can I get the test, get work done, and send them an invoice or was this letter just to mock me?

 

["Bob"]

Attaching pictures from my phone app seems to be having problems?

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Yes, ironically our letter arrived this past Monday, just a week after we've started Volvo's "Oil Consumption Test" program. Leading up to the actual test, things weren't very clear as to how Volvo was going to handle this oil issue so this letter is of considerable relief in that we're not just being subjected to an exercise. Ours is a 2015.5 S60 T5 AWD Platinum w/ 75k on the odo and it looks as new, inside and out... the service writer was very impressed. It's a 1,200km test and they weigh the oil going in and going out... that's correct, they don't use the dipstick, they weigh the oil, something my fellow gearhead buddies and I have never heard of. It's a commuter car so our consumption test will take a few weeks... stay tuned.

 

[Big Fig]

I had 54K on my 2016 S60 in 2020 when it started losing oil. Local dealer said I had to pay for the oil consumption test, but indicated that if it showed bad rings/seals, volvo might cover the repair/replacement. Was a gamble, but I was losing >quart a week. When the test was done, Volvo completely replaced the engine at no charge. Worth asking your dealer whether this is still an option. Good luck

 

[dbphillips]

For those considering piston and ring replacement at your own expense, beware. It didn't fix ours and they ended up putting in a new engine. We were lucky ours started having consumption issues at 35k miles, so all addressed under warranty.

I feel like they know the root cause by now, but the real fix would cost too much. They are really risking their reputation on this one. I am in the minority, but loved knowing I could go a quarter million miles on a Volvo engine without worrying.

 

[JimF]

Hoping for the best... 2015.5 XC60 T5 and was having oil issues since about 75K miles or so. I had the work done at the local dealer assuming I would get nothing but Volvo chipped in 25%. It still cost me $5k out of pocket. When I had the work done in November 2022 I had 97k+ miles on it and the car was 7 years 11 months and 14 days from date of delivery. Can't get much closer than that. I'm still only "hopeful" because I had previously change the oil trap myself (which did nothing) and I never had nor was asked to do an oil consumption test. I have kept records of the oil level (using a scan tool, there's no dipstick), oil temperature, and mileage which showed I was using about 1 qt every 1000 miles. Dealer noted that on my work order. My paperwork has already been mailed. I'll check my status in a week or so.

 

[dougjones]

My girlfriend and I have owned 7 Volvos between us. She bought a 2012 CPO in 2015, while under the CPO warranty, she came over and said the oil light was on. I put 5qts of oil in it that day, I told her to take it back to Smythe Volvo (SummitNJ). They told her it's fine don't bring it back till the oil light comes back on. Down 1 qt over the next 1000 miles. I said bring it back to Smythe. That happened every 1000 miles for the next few months. They said it was normal, I had the same 5 cylinder motor in all the cars and none burned oil. They capitulated after the sixth time of bringing it back and scheduled the rings to be replaced I told them they had to do something before the CPO warranty runs out. We were on vacation and they called to say they wanted 500 bucks to swap out a sensor and upgrade the ECU (computer), I told them NOT A DIME until were satisfied that they fixed the oil issue. Got the car back kept getting battery low even after swapping out the battery with a new one, and it was still using oil, not as bad as it was, but still. I have a 2006 S60 with 150K I drive it back and forth to Florida and it runs like an Imperial Star Cruiser, Not One Issue. We traded the 2012 back in and got a 2016 S60 and it seems to be fine, I have been checking the oil and it seems to be Great! I think they had bad rings from 2012-2015 and Volvo knew it, there was a mention of a class action suit, Not sure if this was a thing, I am hoping the 2016 doesn't start burning oil since it has less than 50K on it now..

Good Luck to everyone in this position, Let me know if I can help.

 

[sflanagan51559]

We have a late 2015 V60 & a '16 S60. Both 4 cyl Drive E cars. Son working at the dealer. Said both were AFTER oil burner cars, sb ok, per company & technicians. The V60 has odd occasions when 1-2 qts go missing. Seems to be when driven in steep areas. So maybe another prob. Oil trap new, plugs clean. This car was run in the city, 60k hard miles, 10k oil changed at dlr (too long for this motor & use). Now doing 12k/yr urban driving. Burned a qt in 3500-4500 mi. On trips it might spit out a black cloud once a while on hard acceleration ( clearing carbon?). Went to 10w30 synth & 5-6000 mi changes. Same oil use, seems better with ring treatments. These rings don't take well to hot conditions. Car is fine otherwise. The S60 was off lease buy at 26k. Now at 163000 with little if any oil use, usually at high speed, hot conditions. Might use 1 qt in 4000 mi. 90+ % are highway miles. Reminds me of the 1988 Jag XJ6 I had. Solid as a rock, does what it should, no fuss. So where it lived means a lot. Judging by many posts it seems you should avoid pre 2016s at least. But not all were bad. We change our oil & at 5-6k its still oil. At 10k its not. 1 further note. The electric oil reading is not always correct. Have twice had a reading drop 1-2 qt overnight or in a few miles with no rhythm or reason. Once it went to zero after 300 mile run Freaked us out. Put 3.5 qt in before full. Changed out next day.had 5.5 qts drained. Something odd there.

 

[FineYoung]

The class action suit referenced in some letters above has not settled yet. The initial deadline was 2/14/2023 but it was extended to 3/15/2023.
I think Volvo has not been above board with this issue. Waiting to send the warranty extension notice until most vehicles were out of warranty is one example. They were clearly aware of this as they also changed the oil recommendations several years ago because of this issue and didn't bother to alert owners at that time.

 

[FineYoung]

I bought my 2015.5 S60 edrive used. It's initial title date was 2/3/2015 - exactly 8 years from the 2/3/2023 notice. I had my breather box replaced last month and started an oil consumption test as well. I do note that the warranty covers "excessive oil consumption" and doesn't actually specify the cause. So, I'm wondering if Volvo intends to cover excessive oil consumption due to either cause. I also am curious as to whether there is some interplay between these problems - does excessive oil leaking past the rings also contribute to fouling of the breather box?

 

[dougjones]

We have a late 2015 V60 & a '16 S60. Both 4 cyl Drive E cars. Son working at the dealer. Said both were AFTER oil burner cars, sb ok, per company & technicians. The V60 has odd occasions when 1-2 qts go missing. Seems to be when driven in steep areas. So maybe another prob. Oil trap new, plugs clean. This car was run in the city, 60k hard miles, 10k oil changed at dlr (too long for this motor & use). Now doing 12k/yr urban driving. Burned a qt in 3500-4500 mi. On trips it might spit out a black cloud once a while on hard acceleration ( clearing carbon?). Went to 10w30 synth & 5-6000 mi changes. Same oil use, seems better with ring treatments. These rings don't take well to hot conditions. Car is fine otherwise. The S60 was off lease buy at 26k. Now at 163000 with little if any oil use, usually at high speed, hot conditions. Might use 1 qt in 4000 mi. 90+ % are highway miles. Reminds me of the 1988 Jag XJ6 I had. Solid as a rock, does what it should, no fuss. So where it lived means a lot. Judging by many posts it seems you should avoid pre 2016s at least. But not all were bad. We change our oil & at 5-6k its still oil. At 10k its not. 1 further note. The electric oil reading is not always correct. Have twice had a reading drop 1-2 qt overnight or in a few miles with no rhythm or reason. Once it went to zero after 300 mile run Freaked us out. Put 3.5 qt in before full. Changed out next day.had 5.5 qts drained. Something odd there.

Sflanagan51559: I had no idea there was a class action suite on an Oil consumption issue but if there is you should join it. Also if your blowing out black smoke when your getting on the accelerator I suspect your turbo has oil blowing by it. You really need to watch the turbo replacement video from Elliott Alvis youtube channel below. Also reach out to both Elliott and RobertDIY to look into your issues, these guys have a ton of talent working on Volvo's. I wouldn't buy the 4 cylinder Supercharged/Turbocharged motors until they are proven reliable, which could take a decade or so. I have bought 7 Volvo's between me and my family since 1995 and the five cylinder turbocharged engines seem bulletproof. I use the 10w-30 Synthetic but RobertDIY recommends 10w-40 and I do Oil changes on the 5's 140K, 145K, 150K. It seems to work for me. I don't know what to tell you about the electronic Oil level sensor maybe change the sensor, I don't know why you would replace the dipstick, the simplist and most reliable time tested method of checking the oil level. It's like the engineers go drinking at lunch and after get these ideas on how to improve the engines while they are three sheets to the wind!
https://www.youtube.com/@ElliottAlvis
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Also: https://www.youtube.com/@RobertDIY

 

[v50ody]

Received letter two weeks ago. Chatted with volvo online. They said covers future repair. Contacted two dealerships. The service depts have not got back. What are they waiting for? Parts?

 

[Beldak]

The date on the letter was 10-days past our 8-year mark. I brought it to the dealer and they said no to the free oil consumption test/repairs. After some negotiating, they called higher up and got it approved. (Probably helps I have under 70k mileage on it). They started the oil consumption test and I'll be bringing it back after 1000 miles for them to weigh the oil and see what's up.