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<A HREF="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_susan_estrich/say_it_ain_t_so_joe" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rasmussenreports.co...o_joe</A><p>Questions the choice Obama made in chosing him over Hillary. This is priceless. Keep talking Biden, keep talking. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I mean, he's only saying what we all know, but it's funny to hear such candor from his campaign. <p>Keep in mind that the editorial is by Susan Estrich, before the knee-jerk calling Rassmussen a republican stronghold, or the article spinning to the right.
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (JoeLvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_susan_estrich/say_it_ain_t_so_joe" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rasmussenreports.co...o_joe</A><p>Questions the choice Obama made in chosing him over Hillary. This is priceless. Keep talking Biden, keep talking. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I mean, he's only saying what we all know, but it's funny to hear such candor from his campaign. <p>Keep in mind that the editorial is by Susan Estrich, before the knee-jerk calling Rassmussen a republican stronghold, or the article spinning to the right.</TD></TR></TABLE><br><b><FONT SIZE="10">Y A W N . . . </FONT></b><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Yannis
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (GrecianVolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GrecianVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br><b><FONT SIZE="10">Y A W N . . . </FONT></b><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Yannis</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ooooooohhhhhh I see there chief, as long as its Democratic mud it might as well not even be there.... Lets just talk about the Republicans!!!!<p>JoeLvo why would you post trash like this!!! You know the Democrats cant do anything wrong man!!! Why didnt you just post another Anti Republican thread???!!!! <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> Cheers
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (Elak R)

What? I can't hear you over Yannis' extreme <p><B>BIAS</B><p>This is another good example of the ostrich people. Obama's own VP doubts Obamas judgement, and his experience, not to mention admits he wasn't the best choice Obama could have made, but it bores Yannis and the rest of the mad-lib OTFers <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"><p>And, I love it when they try and say theis forum is split 50-50. they cant even accept their VP nominees own words. They'll be cannibalizing themselves soon enough, just like in the primaries. Fun fun fun. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/giovi28vr6/Liberals.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JoeLvo at 4:21 PM 9-12-2008</i>
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (Elak R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Elak R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Ooooooohhhhhh I see there chief, as long as its Democratic mud it might as well not even be there.... Lets just talk about the Republicans!!!!<p>JoeLvo why would you post trash like this!!! You know the Democrats cant do anything wrong man!!! Why didnt you just post another Anti Republican thread???!!!! <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> Cheers</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You are just TOO funny!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (V70 Brad)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>V70 Brad</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You are just TOO funny!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Do I not have a point??!!! Nobody replied on this thread!! The room is full of Dems!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (JoeLvo)

Interesting.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> My wife is in the IoM (Isle of Man between UK and Ireland) at this time and she mentioned this was all the talk in the pubs over there. The Manx certainly are not YAWNING over this as Yannis is.<p>If true, this is quite a statement from Biden and Biden should therefore have turned down the offer from Obama in the first place.
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (Elak R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Elak R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Ooooooohhhhhh I see there chief, as long as its Democratic mud it might as well not even be there.... Lets just talk about the Republicans!!!!<p>JoeLvo why would you post trash like this!!! You know the Democrats cant do anything wrong man!!! Why didnt you just post another Anti Republican thread???!!!! <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> Cheers</TD></TR></TABLE><p>JoelVo and Elak R and whoever else this applies to:<p>This thread just illustrates the war-mongering aspect of <I>some</I> right-wingers. You can say what you want about the left-wing or the Democratic party. If it is a valid point, you may find one of us come out and defend or argue the topic. This is because we do not take petty attempts to slander a candidate as a serious offense that needs our attention, especially when there is no substance to it. <p>This is aside from the actual topic of this thread. I really don't care about the comment and think Biden excercised a poor selection of words. It happens. <p>Back to my point and what the actual topic of the thread has become. When someone on the forums posts a similar topic attacking the Republican candidate, many of you, literally catch fire. I picture JoelVo's head actually coming off of his shoulders, the way he responds sometimes. <p>This, unfortunately, is what you want. You want a fight, even if it is about something as stupid as a quote, you want to fight it so bad, even when you know you're wrong or when you have proved yourself right. <p>This is when my point about the inherent nature of <I>some</I> right-wingers becomes clear, this need to prove something, and to prove it anyway possible. There are many on this board that share similar views and values, but do not entertain or engage topics that they know are not worth the bandwidth required.<p>Then what happens next are comments similar to this one. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uh uh, rational wisdom. Why don't you see it? Maintaining bases in former war-zones are tools for maintaining peace in those regions. You folks, who basically detest your own country (really, it's very apparent in your posts), want to find fault with it wherever you can. Your twisted, US-last viewpoints are what WEAKEN our country. That's why you should be a citizen of a different country. If you're not loyal to your country, you are NOT a good American. That doesn't mean you can't have disagreements, or fight for change. But lots of you on this board are anti-US through and through. Perhaps it's just the Paris thing to do for y'all.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is what many would call a break-down in communications where an apparent message is lost within what appears to be a response of rage.<p>Have a good weekend and go Hokies! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by pOrk at 6:47 PM 9-12-2008</i>
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (pOrk)

pOrk: You just haven't been here for the past several years of blind GOP bashing. Not to mention the personal insults that certain folks on the non-GOP side of this election will all too easily launch when the heat is on. They start with attacks and mud slinging, we respond and defend and we are war mongers....puhleez.<p>Since you made it a one side versus another in terms of behavior, I recommend you take an objective look at things. It's funny how 'they' ignore something negative about their 'guy(s)' yet find a need to post a new thread about anything even remotely negative about the GOP...so much so that 'they' turned every thread for a year or so into a "war of lie, GOP is evil" topic regardless of the actual threat topic.<p>Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...and one shouldn't judge the rock thrower unless they know the origin of the boulders <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Go Terps <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.davidcatalano.com/eklektos/files/images/virginia_tech_is_for_losers_large.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (2k2S80t6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>2k2S80t6</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You just haven't been here for the past several years of blind GOP bashing.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Oh no!<p>Call the waaahmbulance...<p><IMG SRC="http://lh6.ggpht.com/CLIFFORDUS/SAuEx3XHu-I/AAAAAAAAABg/1mDmxTGWDwk/s800/waaambulance.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>UKMatt
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (2k2S80t6)

I can appreciate that, the relationships that many of you have, good or bad. Point taken. My comment on war mongering was aimed at those it applied to and not all. <p>It does appear from an objective POV that some have taken comments from others a little too hard or that, over time, some comments may have created a pile of contempt in others. <p>BTW I played youth ball with Scott O'Brien, if that name rings a bell.<br>Terps need to help the ACC with a big win over those Golden Bears. Don't let me down.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by pOrk at 7:11 PM 9-12-2008</i>
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (pOrk)

p0rk, in response to your entire post: <p>NO!, bad doggie (smacks dog on nose with newspaper)... NO!<p><br>Just because you can't handle this most embarrassing development of the ENTIRE general election, and want to (typically) bury it under the "but look what you did, whaaa", does not give you an ounce of reason.<br>
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (pOrk)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pOrk</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>This is aside from the actual topic of this thread. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>It was, and you've given me great laughs at attempting to change the subject. <p>Fact remains: <p><B>Your VP candidate thinks he wasn't the best choice, and that your POTUSA nominee is totally unprepared for the job.</B><p>I agree with both assertions of fact. <p>I stand by my quote you referenced: the American-haters, apologists, and guilty-of-success-feeling lefties are weakening our country. <p>Thank you for playing.
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (JoeLvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I stand by my quote you referenced: the American-haters, apologists, and guilty-of-success-feeling lefties are weakening our country. <p>Thank you for playing. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>What are you doing to strengthen our country? You seem to follow blindly the leadership of this country without question and slam anyone who does. Why don't you pony up and really honor your country with service?There are many waivers for service whatever your problem may be. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>The military would not have me, surely, due to various reasons. I've never tried to enlist, regardless.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>If your not doing anything then one might say your just as bad as the people you say are weakening our country.<p>
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (Elak R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Elak R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Do I not have a point??!!! Nobody replied on this thread!! The room is full of Dems!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Chill out, bruddah. Some of us have lives and the last thing we want to do is be at the computer on a Saturday.<p>I've been at Farmer's Market, working in my yard, reading to a newly blind person, and taking a run. <p>I have enough nonsense in my work week. I need to get away from it for a little while, at least.<p>Cheers to all for a good weekend, however. May Peace be with you.<br>
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (JoeLvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>. <p>I stand by my quote you referenced: the American-haters, apologists, and guilty-of-success-feeling lefties are weakening our country. <p>Thank you for playing. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>so, am I the only one who thinks this guy is a complete douche?<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I sure hope you get some treatment. <p>anyone wanna bet that Joe is single, and has trouble meeting women? Yikes.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (JoeLvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I stand by my quote you referenced: the American-haters, apologists, and guilty-of-success-feeling lefties are weakening our country. <p>Thank you for playing. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It is AMAZING that there are people like you who think in this manner....what is it? IGNORANCE? PANIC? HATRED? INTOLERANCE? STUPIDITY? <p>It's scary that you are able to vote (and sad)...<p>Yannis
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (GrecianVolvo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GrecianVolvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>It is AMAZING that there are people like you who think in this manner....what is it? IGNORANCE? PANIC? HATRED? INTOLERANCE? STUPIDITY? <p>It's scary that you are able to vote (and sad)...<p>Yannis</TD></TR></TABLE><p>C'mon, Yannis, it's not sad, it's great! We will all work together and elect the government we deserve, as intended. <p>All those capitalized words are easily pointed back at the sender, especially Intolerance. D'you think that some people might just bait others into an emotional response? Right here on the OTF? My Dad use to tell me, "Son, never play another man's game". Took me a while to figure out what he meant.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (adp)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>so, am I the only one who thinks this guy is a complete douche?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nah. you're not the only one.<br> <br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>anyone wanna bet that Joe is single, and has trouble meeting women? Yikes.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually, i bet he's married.. There's some pretty crazy women out there... lots of dumb ones too... haha.
 

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Re: Not only does Biden think Obama's unqualified for POTUSA, he also .... (YK-GTR)

I think that the point Biden was/is trying to make is that in order to hold the party together, he should have chosen HRC because the party was pretty much evenly split on who to nominate for POTUSA.<p><br>Trust me, there are people who are much more successful and generous than him who are democrats...(and in his own state for that matter) so the guilty of success feeling lefties comment is well, not completely true. I will concede though, that there are many people who don't understand capitalism...and think their employer can't function without them.<p>And calling people "American haters" is quite similar to an old trick that Hitler as well as Stalin used to try to denounce people for lack of patriotism. <p><br>
 
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