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Fake tuning.<p>Always empty when needed.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fake tuning.<p>Always empty when needed.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>True to all of the above. <p>I know that it is not a 'track' item rather more of a 'strip' item. My thought was it would be a good way to get some cold air to the turbo, for those of us in the south where we get heat soak 80% of the time. <p>My thought was a 35 dry shot, but since I have been doing more track events lately I was going to go with a better Intercooler and a chip. I wanted to hear some opinions on the subject and see who else besides Boosted had this done.
 

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i have been seriously considering a nitrous kit and here is why and what I think. feel free to "educate" me or correct me if I am missing something...<p>most of us probably want good bang for the buck mods. If we had unlimited funds, and wanted a bad A$$ 4 door sedan, we woudl have bought M5s....<p>If you want to mod the R and get a nice boost in power - and you go the bolt on route - you do ECU, downpipe, and exhaust. That is what I have done. And when I run high octane fuel, I have to be honest - it's really pretty fast. Sure, it's not as fast as a Z06, but for a 4 door sedan, it's pretty fast. I really think for 99% of street driving, the car is faster than it needs to be. On the off chance that one of us dared to break the law and race someone, an R with the basic bolt ons is a capable car. BUT - it would be really nice to have an extra bit of power for that occasional moment when you need it.<p>I figure a nice nitrous setup could be had for $1000. It wouild be something mild, like a 30-50 shot. it would give the car that "extra" it needs to really run with some big boy cars. I woudl think a car like mine, equipped with a 40-50 shot of nitrous would outrun a stock C5 vette....eat up M3s and maybe even run with a C6 vette??? <p>to get that kind of power level with a big turbo...would cost a LOT more money. The power would be there ALL the time, which would be nice...but when one factors in the cost of a big turbo, and then looks at what that money could do in terms of just buying a better car...the nitrous looks like a good deal.<p>i figure a new turbo/FMIC/dp/ECU - the whole deal - to make a 400+ hp R would be $7500-1000.<p>I coudl do the basic bolt ons AND nitrosu for half that.
 

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if you do a FMIC and an intercooler spray then you can stay safe and add put more power to the wheels than an ECU.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>23109VC</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I figure a nice nitrous setup could be had for $1000. It wouild be something mild, like a 30-50 shot. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>$670 for the kit including warmer and electronic shut off. Plus what ever it cost to install it. These are not that hard to install, the electrical stuff is the only thing I would make sure is done right by a professional.
 

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for an intercooler setup you would not need a warmer and you can have one for much less than 670 bucks. Check out:<p><A HREF="http://www.gmpperformance.com/index.cfm?PG=detail&PID=87693" TARGET="_blank">http://www.gmpperformance.com/...87693</A>
 

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the 5 pound bottle would be more than adequate and this would be as beneficial on a "track" as it is on a drag strip.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R_Rated</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for an intercooler setup you would not need a warmer and you can have one for much less than 670 bucks. Check out:<p><A HREF="http://www.gmpperformance.com/index.cfm?PG=detail&PID=87693" TARGET="_blank">http://www.gmpperformance.com/...87693</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>what kind of hp gain woudl you expect with an "N-tercooler" kit on a car that would make 300 hp to the pavement WITHOUT it? is it really enough to feel? <p>I think boosted has this on his car.... i wonder if he can feel the difference via his butt.....on a 1/4 mile run with the ntercooler ON vs. OFF.<p>
 

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i would think that the n02 intercooler spray would be benificial becasue it basically freezes teh intercooler so all the air flowing would be much cooler than ambient temp. Since all this air is after the over the engine pipe it should be much cooler.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R_Rated</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for an intercooler setup you would not need a warmer and you can have one for much less than 670 bucks. Check out:<p><A HREF="http://www.gmpperformance.com/index.cfm?PG=detail&PID=87693" TARGET="_blank">http://www.gmpperformance.com/...87693</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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problem. i just thought about this in traffic. if you install one of these intercooler sprayers. i woudl think it would possibly get sucked into the intake by accident and maybe run your engine too lean becasue this boost is unintentional.
 

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you aren't spraying INTO the IC, it sprays the surface area (fins) to cool the intake charge.<p>even if it was piped into the IC it wouldn't be strong enough to pressurize the air to cause unintentional boost.<p>that being said, a well designed and installed nitrous system is no more or less harmful to any engine. a dry shot of up to approx 50-65 would do well. and anything over that i would suggest a wet system. i've run a nitrous works system in 2 of my past cars without any ill effects. if you think about it, turbo'd engines in general are designed to work in high stress, high combustion chamber environments. and thats what a shot of nitrous is introducing. our turbo's are introducing a higher content of oxygen into the engine that a NA car is able to do. essentially the same as a nitrous system<p>
 

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how woudl we get an intercooler spray system on the STOCK intercooler...which is stuck in between the radiator and AC condensor??<p>not gonna happen i think...we'd need to go FMIC and then add the intercooler spray
 

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stop trying justify it and DO IT!!! as for the wife... sometimes it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. One suggestion, if you get a plexiglass sheet and cut it to fit behind the grocery bag holder(in the indented area) you don't have to drill holes in your car and you can take it out when you need the space.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R_Rated</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stop trying justify it and DO IT!!! as for the wife... sometimes it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. One suggestion, if you get a plexiglass sheet and cut it to fit behind the grocery bag holder(in the indented area) you don't have to drill holes in your car and you can take it out when you need the space.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yea a quick release and stealth are nice features, that is a good idea. My idea was the spare tire area and taking the spare tire out and putting the bottle in when you knew it was going to be used.<p>How long would a 5 lb bottle last? If this is to work on a track where one could get 3-4 runs at 20-30 minutes each, I would think that would be a lot of nitrogen or CO2.
 

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The other way to set it up is to cut a hole in the trunk floor infront of the passenger side tail-light and mount it through there. That would be out of the way and only expose half the bottle.
 

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Do you have a picture? I have a good idea of what your are talking about, just wondering if you could build a cover with the same gray carpet and make it completely invisible. <p>You are referring to the 5 lb bottle as well, correct?
 
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